bitkahuna

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there's no reason for you to exaggerate what i wrote and also lack a sense of humor. i wrote:
i stick by what i wrote light-heartedly, although clearly you're not the only person on the planet with your expectations. nothing wrong with your attention to detail, just observing that i think almost no one else is that discerning. i've known and know many people who buy six and seven figure cars who have no idea what materials are used where.

SW17LS

To be fair, you have done nothing but attack my viewpoints on these vehicles in these threads and its really tiresome, and the thinly veiled personal jabs with the smilies are just a part of that.

mmarshall

Obviously some designs are better than others....I wasn't trying to imply otherwise. A pass-through, though, in general, usually only robs a small amount of the cross-beam rigidity, because it is essentially a small hole in the structure.

I agree that the fold-down feature is nice. Upmarket German sedans are known for having very strong structures...particularly the Mercedes S-class.

SW17LS

To me, having a utility vehicle in the household the utility of my sedan doesn't really have any value. I never need to fold seats down because when I need cargo room, I just take the Pacifica. Most people who buy cars at this price have multiple cars.

bitkahuna

iTrader: (20)

ok, as you wish, i'll stop commenting on your posts, no problem.

SW17LS

I don't want you to stop commenting on my posts, I want you to stop picking apart and attacking my viewpoints.

LexBob2

We're seriously thinking about going down to one car. If we do, we'd sell the X3 (prices just keep going up and it's very tempting). We'd keep the 5 Series so having folding rear seats would give us some extra capacity when needed which is rare these days.

SW17LS

Yeah thats a totally different situation if you only have one car

TangoRed

To me, the Lucid didn't feel as opulent as the EQS and I personally wonder how some of the materials in the Air are going to wear over time. I've sad that in the previous Lucid thread though. What's changed for me since then is getting a ride in one- the engineering behind this car is incredible, full stop. I did not feel that the infotainment, road noise suppression, and overall ride were superior to the EQS but what they've achieved here is quite remarkable everywhere else. Ultimately I'm left exactly where I was before, which is I don't feel comfortable ordering one but fully appreciate what they've done. What a car.

SW17LS

The ride and isolation would be helped by an air suspension like the EQS has

TangoRed

No doubt.

I'm looking forward to observing some later build cars to see if they will address some of the fit/finish issues. The exterior panel gaps were uniform, but there was some interior issues I noted in both the showroom model and the car I rode in.

Oh- the exterior door handles were NOT working properly on the model I rode in. A fellow guest pushed the rear door handle when it didn't pop out like it was supposed to and it actually jammed. Land Rover to Tesla to Mercedes to Lucid, these never seem to work right all the time. Speaking of Land Rover, the infotainment system reminded me of the one in the Range Rover. Delays between screens were common and the organization of the menus was counterintuitive. I suspect this will be addressed quickly.

SW17LS

The only ones that have been out are preproduction, so there will be some final material changes. They also have said production infotainment will be much faster.

I know what you mean about these door handles, WAY more trouble than they are worth.

TangoRed

Customer deliveries have started and that's what I was in. I believe they're up to 130 deliveries. To note, these early builds are delivered with several things disabled. Hers had no cruise control, the massage seats turn off after just a few minutes, and as I said the screens were laggy. Her Lucid "coach" said they were collecting feedback and addressing these things asap.

No reason for dramatic alarm. Just typical start up issues I have no patience for.

bitkahuna

iTrader: (20)

beta testing new EVs is the new normal.

SW17LS

Ah I didn’t realize it was a friends delivered car