Porsche Taycan (interior revealed post #104)
#47
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And of course the tincan will have an advantage in europe of not being stiffed with the 10% import tariff.
#49
The real test will be how the Taycan does on the track. My understanding is that this was one of Porsche's key performance targets versus the Tesla Model S.
The 800 Volt charging system is a big jump over Tesla and presumably so will be the motor designs (probably permanent magnet like the Tesla Model 3), inverter design and batteries.
Tesla emphasizes long range, comfort and driver disengagement before all else. Porsche wants as much range as possible but otherwise they have an opposite philosophy that instead emphasizes driver engagement. They want their car to be able to be driven flat out on a track without causing any overheating of the motor, battery or inverter or any other issues. They want owners to be able to push their cars for a reasonable number of laps before recharging and/or cooling down is required.
This will be Porsche's answer to Tesla's limited-use and battery wearing Ludicrous Mode novelty. Teslas generally don't do well in a track environment and were never intended to.
Two different automakers with totally different design goals and performance targets for their EVs.
Ultimately as of 2018 there are still limitations inherent in lithium-ion battery technology that will only let Porsche get so far to this end but those limitations are slowly but gradually moving higher.
The 800 Volt charging system is a big jump over Tesla and presumably so will be the motor designs (probably permanent magnet like the Tesla Model 3), inverter design and batteries.
Tesla emphasizes long range, comfort and driver disengagement before all else. Porsche wants as much range as possible but otherwise they have an opposite philosophy that instead emphasizes driver engagement. They want their car to be able to be driven flat out on a track without causing any overheating of the motor, battery or inverter or any other issues. They want owners to be able to push their cars for a reasonable number of laps before recharging and/or cooling down is required.
This will be Porsche's answer to Tesla's limited-use and battery wearing Ludicrous Mode novelty. Teslas generally don't do well in a track environment and were never intended to.
Two different automakers with totally different design goals and performance targets for their EVs.
Ultimately as of 2018 there are still limitations inherent in lithium-ion battery technology that will only let Porsche get so far to this end but those limitations are slowly but gradually moving higher.
Last edited by KahnBB6; 10-27-18 at 02:19 PM.
#52
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I'm excited to see it's a sedan & not a hatchback. That was unexpected.
#54
hmm...so far i don't like the way this is going. so it's got all the disadvantage of a battery car, low range, heavy and all the disadvantage of a gas car, transmission tunnel, cramped interior, small trunk opening.
the rear is extra wide and thick with 2 exhaust openings?? but it's got a tiny trunk opening the size of an a-hole. meh
the rear is extra wide and thick with 2 exhaust openings?? but it's got a tiny trunk opening the size of an a-hole. meh
Last edited by Stormwind; 02-13-19 at 01:34 PM.
#55
Lead Lap
Futuristic Panamera....or should I call it Panera
#57
hmm...so far i don't like the way this is going. so it's got all the disadvantage of a battery car, low range, heavy and all the disadvantage of a gas car, transmission tunnel, cramped interior, small trunk opening.
the rear is extra wide and thick with 2 exhaust openings?? but it's got a tiny trunk opening the size of an a-hole. meh
the rear is extra wide and thick with 2 exhaust openings?? but it's got a tiny trunk opening the size of an a-hole. meh
#59
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going right after tesla s.
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