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Old 05-05-23, 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Allen K
My R1S is locked in at the pre price hike rate and is currently configured at $79K. If I opted to flip it I could get the full tax credit (purchase agreement with the old rules) and make another ~$15 to $20k on top. That's why people are flipping
Go look at the prices of these R1S - no dealer will give you $80k for it.
There is no demand at all.
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
C8s were going for $50-100k over, most Rivians are under msrp.
These are all being sold by dealers who paid way less than retail - i just feel it’s strange to see so many available with delivery miles.
And R1S was going for $30K over MSRP when they first started getting flipped which is pretty good for a niche new EV company.

Originally Posted by RNM GS3
Go look at the prices of these R1S - no dealer will give you $80k for it.
There is no demand at all.
Since new C8s are going for MSRP now, does that mean there's no demand? Used S classes are also selling for under the MSRP of new ones so there much be no demand there too. Seems like a double standard

Cars and Bids has R1S's going between $90K and $101K with most of them hovering around $95. The 'gotta have it now' group paid ~$130K for the early flips and now people are willing to wait for their number to be called vs. paying the premium.
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
C8s were going for $50-100k over, most Rivians are under msrp.
These are all being sold by dealers who paid way less than retail - i just feel it’s strange to see so many available with delivery miles.
I was going to respond to this, but Allen K beat me to it
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We are in a different world- nobody is paying over for a C8 now. In fact, you can get them at less than MSRP.

When Rivians first came out over a year ago - they were going for over but now dealers can’t sell ones for delivery miles at msrp lol.

They sold less units in Q1 2023 than in Q4 2022 - that is not good for a company that should be “growing” and has long line of supposed order…..The fact that used market has plenty of them available is also not great sign.
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
We are in a different world- nobody is paying over for a C8 now. In fact, you can get them at less than MSRP.

When Rivians first came out over a year ago - they were going for over but now dealers can’t sell ones for delivery miles at msrp lol..
Why do you seem to think this is unique to the Rivian?! It isn't
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
Go look at the prices of these R1S - no dealer will give you $80k for it.
There is no demand at all.
R1S's are definitely still in demand. They were going through auction over $100,000 through mid April. Softened to $96K for an example with just over 1,000 miles the other week. So yes, dealers are going to try their luck with the R1S for sure.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Why do you seem to think this is unique to the Rivian?! It isn't
I never said its unique to them.
What i said was they are In similar position to Lucid and will most likely not be around for long term.

If their customer wait orders are *true* then they can’t meet demand due to manufacturing issues. A growing company with long wait list needs to be Increasing production Quarter over Quarter not reducing it. Thats not a good sign, neither is their stock price or their weakened relationship with Amazon.
In general - even the very wealthy folks are thinking twice about making new purchases due to increased financing costs and other economic factors.

I have seen several R1S suvs in past week compared to only 2-3 of the pickups in past 6 months. 2 of them were at my kids school this morning.
Brave folks for buying this thing or any new brand of car.

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they seem to be great vehicles, and hopefully the quality of them is good. i'm not sure i'm that brave to get one yet though. lol
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
We are in a different world- nobody is paying over for a C8 now. In fact, you can get them at less than MSRP.

When Rivians first came out over a year ago - they were going for over but now dealers can’t sell ones for delivery miles at msrp lol.

They sold less units in Q1 2023 than in Q4 2022 - that is not good for a company that should be “growing” and has long line of supposed order…..The fact that used market has plenty of them available is also not great sign.
they slowed production in Q1 to do enhancements to the production line. They’re still on track to produce 50K for the year
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My point is legacy cars in high demand are also experiencing the same phenomenon.
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So anyway, I had my First Mile drive in Brooklyn today. Getting to and from Brooklyn 0/5. In the morning it wasn't too bad as the Holland was flowing decently, but leaving was a pain after lunch.

The R1S itself was fantastic - 4/5. Panel gaps/alignment were good, the interior quality and materials were leagues ahead of my 3, tons of space in the 2nd and 3rd rows, the remote frunk was awesome, and the truck was just well put together. I did the drive in a mix of All Purpose and Sport mode. My guide found a little space for us to open it up getting on the Brooklyn Queens Expressway and it definitely feels like it does 0-60 in 3 seconds! Coming from my 3P it was clear that it was a big SUV. A little floaty in All Purpose, but very comfortable. In Sport mode, truck felt decently planted. Again, not as good as my 3P, but considering the size/weight of the R1S, it was very impressive. My favorite part was when we went over this short, bumpy metal bridge that had seen better days. All-Purpose / High suspension just ate it up. It was like driving on well paved roads.

Little complaints - side view mirrors don't go down when you put it in reverse. The 360 view on the main screen is helpful, but I hope this gets addressed in a future software update. Doors are a bit heavy for the kids, but they'll get used to it.

Overall, I can't wait for mine to come in. I did talk to the guide and he put me on the lead list since I have flexibility on the color combo and won't be financing the truck so fingers crossed.
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Surprised the mirrors don't tilt down, could there be a setting somewhere?
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Nope, asked the guide that was with me and he said that's not a feature right now. Quick search on the Rivian forums and confirmed that mirrors stay in place. The top down view is nice, but it's not the same
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Wow, thats a surprise...that would really bug me since I am so used to that.
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Originally Posted by Allen K
Nope, asked the guide that was with me and he said that's not a feature right now. Quick search on the Rivian forums and confirmed that mirrors stay in place. The top down view is nice, but it's not the same
There will probably be a software update that enables tilt down. Even my 2020 Hyundai Ioniq EV has that feature, you can turn it on or off


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