Rivian R1S SUV and R1T Pick-up thread
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Rivian revealed its R1T electric pickup truck to the world yesterday, and now we get to see the company's second vehicle: the R1S SUV. They're essentially the same vehicle but with different bodies set on top of Rivian's skateboard chassis architecture. This means the same otherworldly acceleration and long range figures apply to the SUV, even though its shape is a fair bit different than the truck.
We'll get to technical stuff later though, because we should start with the design of this SUV. It's nearly impossible to tell the difference between the truck and SUV from the front. Both have the distinctive vertical oval headlights with the LED DRL running across the whole bow. Move to the side, and it's clear Rivian was going for a boxy look with an off-road capable flavor. Somehow it's able to pull off this "tough truck" persona while still having an air of luxury — the silver trim wrapping all the way around the roof and into the body is a nice touch. The unusual front light arrangement is growing on us, although it definitely looks more at home on this vehicle than the R1T pickup.
Interior styling is identical to the truck as well, but the SUV seats seven to the pickup's five. From what we can tell, the floor looks entirely flat, which should lend itself to some impressive passenger room. The same digital display dash and instrument cluster layout gets carried over from the truck, and the rugged materials do too. A roof and more storage space take the place of the bed and tailgate, but the SUV features a tailgate as well. Rivian decided to go with a combination liftgate and tailgate like the BMW X5 or Range Rover has, to allow people a place to sit. Both the second and third rows fold flat to allow for a ton of extra storage space inside the R1S.
We'll get to technical stuff later though, because we should start with the design of this SUV. It's nearly impossible to tell the difference between the truck and SUV from the front. Both have the distinctive vertical oval headlights with the LED DRL running across the whole bow. Move to the side, and it's clear Rivian was going for a boxy look with an off-road capable flavor. Somehow it's able to pull off this "tough truck" persona while still having an air of luxury — the silver trim wrapping all the way around the roof and into the body is a nice touch. The unusual front light arrangement is growing on us, although it definitely looks more at home on this vehicle than the R1T pickup.
Interior styling is identical to the truck as well, but the SUV seats seven to the pickup's five. From what we can tell, the floor looks entirely flat, which should lend itself to some impressive passenger room. The same digital display dash and instrument cluster layout gets carried over from the truck, and the rugged materials do too. A roof and more storage space take the place of the bed and tailgate, but the SUV features a tailgate as well. Rivian decided to go with a combination liftgate and tailgate like the BMW X5 or Range Rover has, to allow people a place to sit. Both the second and third rows fold flat to allow for a ton of extra storage space inside the R1S.
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Zero to 60 mph arrives in a ridiculous three seconds. The highest power figures actually come from the middle-sized battery pack with 754 horsepower and 826 pound-feet of torque, from the combined output of four electric motors, one for each wheel. Just like the truck, this allows the Rivian to independently distribute torque to each wheel, making it an incredibly competent off-roader.
Rivian also claims great on-road handling due to its fully independent suspension at all four corners. An air suspension system allows for real time adjustments in ride quality and ride height. Towing is limited to 7,716 pounds, which is a step back from the truck's 11,000 pound rating, but still pretty good. Overall range is a step above the truck too. Rivian claims the 180 kWh version will get at least 410 miles of range. From there, the 135 kWh version can go about 310 miles and the 105 kWh goes 240 miles. All those figures are 10 more miles each than what the truck can do, which is most likely just a factor of aerodynamics.
Level three autonomous driving will be standard for all Rivian vehicles, including the R1S. Both the truck and SUV will use a combination of lidar, radar, ultrasonic and GPS to make that possible. This ability allows Rivian to include all the normal active driver assistance features on many new cars today. Rivian also says it expects its cars to be an IIHS Top Safety Pick Plus recipient and receive a 5-Star NHTSA crash test rating.
Keep in mind the truck is a good bit larger than the Rivian SUV. Overall length drops about 15 inches and the wheelbase is shortened a similar amount on the closed roof vehicle. For reference, this SUV is about the same exact length as a Ford Explorer. It will be expensive, though. The R1S is slated to start at $72,500 for the smallest battery pack version. However, you'll only be able to buy the large battery pack versions at the beginning, which will bring the price well above $90,000, according to Rivian's estimates. You're able to reserve either a truck or SUV now for a refundable deposit of $1,000. Rivian says it expects to start shipping vehicles to customers sometime in 2020.
Rivian also claims great on-road handling due to its fully independent suspension at all four corners. An air suspension system allows for real time adjustments in ride quality and ride height. Towing is limited to 7,716 pounds, which is a step back from the truck's 11,000 pound rating, but still pretty good. Overall range is a step above the truck too. Rivian claims the 180 kWh version will get at least 410 miles of range. From there, the 135 kWh version can go about 310 miles and the 105 kWh goes 240 miles. All those figures are 10 more miles each than what the truck can do, which is most likely just a factor of aerodynamics.
Level three autonomous driving will be standard for all Rivian vehicles, including the R1S. Both the truck and SUV will use a combination of lidar, radar, ultrasonic and GPS to make that possible. This ability allows Rivian to include all the normal active driver assistance features on many new cars today. Rivian also says it expects its cars to be an IIHS Top Safety Pick Plus recipient and receive a 5-Star NHTSA crash test rating.
Keep in mind the truck is a good bit larger than the Rivian SUV. Overall length drops about 15 inches and the wheelbase is shortened a similar amount on the closed roof vehicle. For reference, this SUV is about the same exact length as a Ford Explorer. It will be expensive, though. The R1S is slated to start at $72,500 for the smallest battery pack version. However, you'll only be able to buy the large battery pack versions at the beginning, which will bring the price well above $90,000, according to Rivian's estimates. You're able to reserve either a truck or SUV now for a refundable deposit of $1,000. Rivian says it expects to start shipping vehicles to customers sometime in 2020.
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I've been getting a decent amount of targeted ads and also intro ads on YouTube from Rivian for their R1T pick-up. Did some research, looks pretty cool - 0-60 in 3 seconds, 400 mile range, level 3 autonomy. Had never heard of them but did a quick search on here and saw Hoovey had posted something on their SUV about 3 weeks ago - the SUV is due in 2021 while this is scheduled to release in 2020.
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I agree, a very compelling EV (actually both of them, the SUV and the pickup truck). Among all the other EV startups, Rivian seems to be the one that has their act together. For instance, they recently bought a large ex-Mitsubishi factory at the rock bottom price of $16M, just like Tesla had before they produced their Model S. And the products looks like they'll be winners at the expected yearly manufacturing volume (20,000/yr).
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This is a really interesting introduction into Rivian, a car company that is slated to release the first electric pick up truck and alongside of it, a full size SUV for 7 passengers in late 2020. They are touting a 180kw battery model for over 400+ miles of range. Interior seems very nice too. Really hope they can deliver. Another American company pioneering something in the electric car industry.
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Off-roaders will undoubtedly put it to good use
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Flush with cash from Amazon and Ford, among others, Rivian is moving full speed ahead. It confirmed the R1T and R1S due out in late 2020 will be available with a unique tank turn function.
The feature gives Rivian's battery-powered off-roaders the ability to perform a 180-degree turn by spinning in place like a tracked vehicle. We first heard of it in July 2019 when a video showing it in action surfaced on YouTube, but the company quickly pointed out it wasn't authorized and had it taken down. This time, it's official; Rivian announced the tank turn on its verified Twitter account.
Performing a tank turn requires simultaneously spinning the left and right wheels in opposite directions, which is why there's not one car sold new in 2019 that's capable of it. Rivian's models can pull it off because the drivetrain they're both powered by assigns each wheel its own electric motor. They're individually controlled, so getting the wheels on the driver's side to spin forward and the ones on the passenger's side to turn backwards requires little more than a few lines of code.
As we previously reported, Rivian trademarked the terms Tank Turn and Tank Steer in October 2018, which hints the feature could wear either name. And while two-wheel drive models don't appear in its product plan, we don't know whether the function will be standard or optional. However, there's a good chance we'll see it on other models, like its upcoming rally-inspired electric car.
Hardcore off-roaders will undoubtedly put the function to good use while exploring the great outdoors. It's far simpler to push the Tank Steer button on the touchscreen (or wherever Rivian places it) than to make a 14-point turn in a relatively big vehicle. It's not called Donut Mode, though, and the company allegedly warned performing a tank turn on dry pavement to burn rubber will "break ****."
The R1T and the R1S are both scheduled to enter production in late 2020. They'll be built in a former Mitsubishi factory located in Normal, Illinois. Rivian has less than a year to reliably start manufacturing cars, so we expect to learn more about both models in the coming months.
The feature gives Rivian's battery-powered off-roaders the ability to perform a 180-degree turn by spinning in place like a tracked vehicle. We first heard of it in July 2019 when a video showing it in action surfaced on YouTube, but the company quickly pointed out it wasn't authorized and had it taken down. This time, it's official; Rivian announced the tank turn on its verified Twitter account.
Performing a tank turn requires simultaneously spinning the left and right wheels in opposite directions, which is why there's not one car sold new in 2019 that's capable of it. Rivian's models can pull it off because the drivetrain they're both powered by assigns each wheel its own electric motor. They're individually controlled, so getting the wheels on the driver's side to spin forward and the ones on the passenger's side to turn backwards requires little more than a few lines of code.
As we previously reported, Rivian trademarked the terms Tank Turn and Tank Steer in October 2018, which hints the feature could wear either name. And while two-wheel drive models don't appear in its product plan, we don't know whether the function will be standard or optional. However, there's a good chance we'll see it on other models, like its upcoming rally-inspired electric car.
Hardcore off-roaders will undoubtedly put the function to good use while exploring the great outdoors. It's far simpler to push the Tank Steer button on the touchscreen (or wherever Rivian places it) than to make a 14-point turn in a relatively big vehicle. It's not called Donut Mode, though, and the company allegedly warned performing a tank turn on dry pavement to burn rubber will "break ****."
The R1T and the R1S are both scheduled to enter production in late 2020. They'll be built in a former Mitsubishi factory located in Normal, Illinois. Rivian has less than a year to reliably start manufacturing cars, so we expect to learn more about both models in the coming months.
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Musk said its 90% production look.
It looks awesome to me. Very unique styling and has great utility.
This Rivian doesn’t look that much different than other pickups on the market and front lights are a bit goofy.
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