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Old 04-20-23, 12:02 PM
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Does that mean that EV owners should ask for refunds on all the subsidylies to #BIGOIL? 🤔

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Hope you folks make a lot of money and pay taxes. Its sad to see my tax money literally go up in smoke.
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Old 04-20-23, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Fully electric cars accounted for 13.4% of the total new car registrations in Europe in Q1 2023, with 430,700 units
sounds good unless stated as "over 86% of total new car registrations in europe in q1 were NOT ev's"
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Old 04-20-23, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
sounds good unless stated as "over 86% of total new car registrations in europe in q1 were NOT ev's"
We already know that Europe has about a 13 percent EV sales, which is 31 percent higher than a year ago. So the numbers are going up pretty fast. That sounds about what is expected, and pretty good to me
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Old 04-20-23, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by situman
Hope you folks make a lot of money and pay taxes. It's t's sad to see my tax money literally go up in smoke.
The federal EV tax credit is a non-refundable credit. Anyone getting this particular credit is getting their own tax dollars back, no one else's. Unless you have a federal tax liability in excess of the credit you don't get to utilize it (or all of it). You don't get a refund from the IRS of tax you haven't paid. You get a credit against the tax you did pay. Your tax dollars don't directly pay for anyone else's credit.

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Old 04-20-23, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by swajames
The federal EV tax credit is a non-refundable credit. Anyone getting this particular credit is getting their own tax dollars back, no one else's. Unless you have a federal tax liability in excess of the credit you don't get to utilize it (or all of it). You don't get a refund from the IRS of tax you haven't paid. You get a credit against the tax you did pay. Your tax dollars don't directly pay for anyone else's credit.
Oh yeah, forgot to mention that . My daughter who just bought a Bolt (which qualifies for the tax credit) probably won't get it because she doesn't make enough money therefore doesn't have enough tax liability
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Old 04-20-23, 12:36 PM
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probably won't get it because she doesn't make enough money therefore doesn't have enough tax liability
yeah it's pretty whacked. if you make too much no credit. if you don't make enough no credit.
not sure what the magic boundaries are.

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Old 04-20-23, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
We already know that Europe has about a 13 percent EV sales, which is 31 percent higher than a year ago. So the numbers are going up pretty fast. That sounds about what is expected, and pretty good to me
quick calc says if it continues at 30% growth per year it will be 100% by 2031.

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Old 04-20-23, 12:53 PM
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Unrelated. But hilarious.

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Old 04-20-23, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 703
Unrelated. But hilarious.

https://youtu.be/XqJKAnN0-gM
Anything Elon related is considered "Tesla Business" . What did I learn from this short interview? Don't F with Elon, especially if you don't have your talking points straight
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^^ Youre right, that was quite enjoyable.
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https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-supe...k-growth-2023/
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Old 04-20-23, 01:41 PM
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From what I remember on the earnings call (or could have been another source) Tesla is making about $25 million per quarter on charging can someone fact check that? Either way it's not nothing they are at least making some money while they build out the network.
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Old 04-20-23, 01:51 PM
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So who bought TSLA today? 3-month low now. Covered mine and bought some back.
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Old 04-20-23, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
From what I remember on the earnings call (or could have been another source) Tesla is making about $25 million per quarter on charging can someone fact check that? Either way it's not nothing they are at least making some money while they build out the network.
I was talking to one of my co workers that has Model 3, and he says he spends roughly about $25 each time he charges at a Tesla charger, which is about once a week. I don't know how much of that is profit because Tesla usually charges the current rate and passes it on. Maybe there is a surcharge in there somewhere
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Old 04-20-23, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 1111GS
So who bought TSLA today? 3-month low now. Covered mine and bought some back.
No spare cash to sit on, unfortunately
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