Tesla business discussion
#1891
Panasonic delays Tesla 4680 battery cell production
Panasonic announced that it is delaying volume production of the Tesla 4680 battery cell in order to introduce “performance improvement measures.”
https://electrek.co/2023/05/10/panas...ll-production/
#1892
The above price includes installation. It would be tempting, but I already have panels from SunRun that produce about 150 percent of my electricity. I am thinking about adding a couple of Tesla Walls, as PG&E barely pays anything for excess produced energy...something like .05 cents per kWh. I would rather just store it and use it during off-peak, night etc
#1893
The above price includes installation. It would be tempting, but I already have panels from SunRun that produce about 150 percent of my electricity. I am thinking about adding a couple of Tesla Walls, as PG&E barely pays anything for excess produced energy...something like .05 cents per kWh. I would rather just store it and use it during off-peak, night etc
On 4680's they are turning out to be a pain in the neck for Tesla but because they have so many different suppliers of batteries it hardly matters.
#1894
If you didn't already have solar then it would be a great investment. Resale value of your home will go up a lot for starters.
On 4680's they are turning out to be a pain in the neck for Tesla but because they have so many different suppliers of batteries it hardly matters.
On 4680's they are turning out to be a pain in the neck for Tesla but because they have so many different suppliers of batteries it hardly matters.
Going to a dry electrode coating process was never going to be easy. I think they will get it squared away fairly soon. I'm wondering though if the current Model 3 and Y base models that use the LFP batteries are "software limited". I'm wondering what's going to happen to those vehicles when they do figure out how to get more energy density
#1895
#1896
Seriously?? I got an estimate for $79,800
Granted my home is 1500 sq ft, but here it's not based on square footage, it's based on electricity bill, which I listed as $500 a month (my electricity bill is nowhere near that)
This is the final estimate with Power Walls, also there is a 30 percent Federal Tax credit as well as California state credit
Granted my home is 1500 sq ft, but here it's not based on square footage, it's based on electricity bill, which I listed as $500 a month (my electricity bill is nowhere near that)
This is the final estimate with Power Walls, also there is a 30 percent Federal Tax credit as well as California state credit
The panels could just be based on electric bill, but the roof by definition has to be (mostly) based on square footage. Because they have to cover the entire roof.
#1897
the headline says panasonic, but the pic says tesla.
serious questions:
does panasonic only make batteries for tesla?
does tesla make any batteries themselves?
the lfp batteries, are they made by either panasonic or tesla?
i believe i saw (maybe your post) that only the short range or base tesla 3/y use the lfp batteries, is that right?
serious questions:
does panasonic only make batteries for tesla?
does tesla make any batteries themselves?
the lfp batteries, are they made by either panasonic or tesla?
i believe i saw (maybe your post) that only the short range or base tesla 3/y use the lfp batteries, is that right?
#1898
the headline says panasonic, but the pic says tesla.
serious questions:
does panasonic only make batteries for tesla?
does tesla make any batteries themselves?
the lfp batteries, are they made by either panasonic or tesla?
i believe i saw (maybe your post) that only the short range or base tesla 3/y use the lfp batteries, is that right?
serious questions:
does panasonic only make batteries for tesla?
does tesla make any batteries themselves?
the lfp batteries, are they made by either panasonic or tesla?
i believe i saw (maybe your post) that only the short range or base tesla 3/y use the lfp batteries, is that right?
#1899
For some reason I can no longer get an estimate on the solar roof from the website. I have to put in my details and have a contractor reach out to me. But for solar panels, I put in my address and $250/mo as the electric bill, and the "Meet future needs" estimate is $90k before incentives ($48k post-incentives). That seems somewhat close to what I remember from a few years ago, with the solar roof option obviously being dramatically more expensive.
The panels could just be based on electric bill, but the roof by definition has to be (mostly) based on square footage. Because they have to cover the entire roof.
The panels could just be based on electric bill, but the roof by definition has to be (mostly) based on square footage. Because they have to cover the entire roof.
#1901
#1902
Not only that, they are cheaper to manufacture than the 21700 NCA battery pack. They can also be regularly charged fully to 100 percent, in fact Tesla recommends this. In an earlier post I accidentally referred to the 4680 as LFP...that was not correct
#1903
One step at a time, we may very well see 4680's with different chemistries. Dry coating process has turned out to be very challenging that's why no one else is even attempting it so far, not in mass production. BTW the 4680 form factor will be used by other battery makers that are not Tesla or Panasonic.
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