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Old 01-14-23, 11:26 AM
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Might be an impulse buy, but I ordered a model Y LR just now. Cant pass up on this price, plus I installed a level 2 charger at my house last week and have been looking for an EV SUV to replace my BMW X1. Was looking at the KIA Niro, but no good specials on that car, still see dealer markups.
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Old 01-14-23, 11:33 AM
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It's too bad Tesla doesn't sell the single motor Y SR in the US, would be an even lower entry price point for it.
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Old 01-14-23, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by RXSF
Might be an impulse buy, but I ordered a model Y LR just now. Cant pass up on this price, plus I installed a level 2 charger at my house last week and have been looking for an EV SUV to replace my BMW X1. Was looking at the KIA Niro, but no good specials on that car, still see dealer markups.
congrats! What are you getting quoted for your delivery date?
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Old 01-14-23, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RXSF
Might be an impulse buy, but I ordered a model Y LR just now. Cant pass up on this price, plus I installed a level 2 charger at my house last week and have been looking for an EV SUV to replace my BMW X1. Was looking at the KIA Niro, but no good specials on that car, still see dealer markups.
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I see you are going with the ugraded Long Range.
What you going to do with your X1, keeping or trade in?
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Old 01-14-23, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Hameed
https://twitter.com/DriveTeslaca/sta...65791480938496

The side effects of the price cuts has started 😃
I hope those dealers lose their shirts on those cars. Tried to get greedy.

I bet trade-in values going forward will be impacted. Dealers are going to price in the possibility of Tesla cutting prices and leaving them holding the bag.
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Old 01-14-23, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by GFerg
Not seeing how anyone can think Tesla is going to slow.
Tesla sales and growth is slowing down. Cutting prices is the reflection of this slowdown or softening. In 2023, the US interest rates are going to continue to increase making it far more expensive to finance a car and existing homeowners mortgages will continue to increase, this is a big problem for those who have car payments and mortgages. Current inflation is 6.5% and the Fed has said the goal is 2% The slowdown or softening will be for every auto manufacturer, and will be more prevalent for those who have higher priced models.. the alternative to price cuts for MSRP are production cuts at Tesla.

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Old 01-14-23, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
And my brother in law is definitely one of those. He tells me it's the best car he's ever owned, and he's owned several Toyotas, Hondas, and a Subaru
Better how?!
From tech standpoint- then yes
Build quality, interior ambiance, fit/finish, dealer service etc - then No
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Old 01-14-23, 03:08 PM
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In the US, the dual motor LR Y is the base model - its not an upgrade. The rest of the world also gets the single motor SR Y. Maybe if Austin adds capacity, or China has excess capacity to also send cars to the US, we could see the single motor Y here as well. Tesla doesn't want to undercut their US sales of the higher priced Y so long as the order book is full - frankly, most locales don't benefit from a dual motor car, the single motor is fine.
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Originally Posted by swajames
I don’t think many Model 3 owners view their car as an appliance.
not many but def out there. i do feel like i am driving an appliance -- a pretty darn good one for what it is
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Old 01-14-23, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Hameed
Yep
​​@ST430 just got a Plaid before yesterdays price drop
Thanks for the concern, we're good as we got 30k off at that time (w/ 10k free supercharging) lol...



Still love it everyday I drive and no plans to replace it



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Old 01-14-23, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ST430
Thanks for the concern, we're good as we got 30k off at that time (w/ 10k free supercharging) lol...


Still love it everyday I drive and no plans to replace it
Woah, good for you! How did you get the $21k before the price cut if you got it before the end of the year? It looks like you did better before the prices dropped.
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Old 01-14-23, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RXSF
Yes, monthly FSD is $200/month. which is a much better deal than buying it from the start, however, Tesla can raise prices at any time. With a break even time of 6 years, im not willing to bet Im going to keep a car for that long. Plus, you can just buy it on the months you have road trips planned, etc.
Oh wow, also didn't know that.

For features like this, I think sub services are great, but what BMW is doing is ridiculous (heated seats).
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Old 01-14-23, 03:58 PM
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Just to add to this thread and not trying to politicize it:

Sold my mylr to my sister, which in turn caused her to sell her rx350 to a major local used car dealer. We talked with this manager who was responsible for buying cars to sale. Several noteworthy things from our conversation:

- Tesla prices tanked drastically in used car market (no one wants to touch them and carvana has over 3k in the inventory supposedly). No sane car dealer wants to take them in anymore. other luxury car makers are still pretty stable, especially Lexus

- lots of his potentially customers for teslas were very turned off by Elon since his takeover and "implosion" at twitter. In essence, at least here in silicon valley, he was ****ting in the same people who were his core customers.. they have started looking elsewhere, especially with more EVs coming to the market



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Wow. You got the price decrease before it was announced? Or did they adjust afterwards?
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Old 01-14-23, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by patgilm
Woah, good for you! How did you get the $21k before the price cut if you got it before the end of the year? It looks like you did better before the prices dropped.
It is a "new" demo unit with less than 50 miles on the odometer. These are literally showroom vehicles that they can (and usually do) discount on. They were hesitant to give it to us at this price as they said we were double dipping, so it was escalated to their VP of sales in Cali for the ok.
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