jwong77

I think its important that people look at the media or youtube influencers, etc as a source of entertainment, sort of in the same way how some of my generation eventually learned to view Gangster Rap as entertainment. Just because the rapper brags about something, doesn't mean it was a good idea to do it/buy it/live it for the vast majority of us.

AMIRZA786

Haha you must be around my age. NWA, Dr Dre, Ice Cube, Notorious BIG etc.....

patgilm

Ah yes they are still some of my favorites right there.

LeX2K

TSLA is up almost 60% this year. Given the yoyo nature of the markets recently I will not be surprised to see a big sell off in the next few days.

AMIRZA786

I'm holding my positions for now. You know what would be totally awesome? When the time comes to buy my Model 3 Performance, it will 100 percent be finance from profits coming from TSLA

LeX2K

Tesla bears paying for your Tesla doesn't get any better.

In other news, or the same old news

AMIRZA786

Don't you just love the media? If you paid me $1 for every new article that said Tesla was in decline or done, I would be able to put a FAT downpayment on brand spanking new Model 3P

LeX2K

That hysterical headline style is exactly what we're seeing now with Twitter. A certain personality that was long banned from Twitter (is now back) calls these media people smear merchants. Perfect description.

DaveGS4

iTrader: (2)

Keep the politics out of this thread and keep it recent and topical, those headlines are all 2+ years old.

jwong77

I see a lot of parallels between those headlines about Tesla's business and similar ones about Apple about 20 years ago. There used to be a website that was dedicated to count the number of times Apple was supposed to go out of business because the popular sentiment at the time was that Apple couldn't compete with the Microsoft Windows PCs of the time. I believed they called it the Apple Death Knell Counter. Very interesting to see how it will play out this time with Tesla.

Sounds like we are, I remember how big of a deal the East Coast vs West Coast feud was at the time. As a kid, it felt real, and when Tupac and Notorious BIG died, it felt even more real. Now I have no idea nor do I have anything to prove it, but the much older cynical version of me believes it was all a ploy to get us to buy more rap CD's. To me, it was the predecessor to the current social media driven machine that gets us to click on links or buys things like $5000 Pelotons or bringing it back to the topic at hand, Teslas.

AMIRZA786

What Tesla needs is competition. Also they need to avoid becoming complacent just like Blackberry and Microsoft became. That said, for the foreseeable future they have more demand than can be filled.

Yeah I remember the West coast vs East coast rivalries in the 90's. I was in my early 20's at the time. Different era

Margate330

It will be interesting when the other big mfg's start pumping out EV offerings in big numbers.

Right now they may be slack but the day may come when they are making them as abundant as their current offerings with no delays, supply chain issues, or dealer adms.

Like what was mentioned above, we are at a turning point.
AND- I see Tesla digging in establishing themselves from all the info ya'll CL members posted but will it be enough?

Time will tell but at the very least they are now a player in the big leagues with the other major mfg's...
I'm just enjoying hearing everyone's ideas...

LeX2K

Tesla will continue to lose EV market share until at least 2030. But here comes the kicker and it's a big one. The EV pie is growing exponentially. 2022 saw the ICE market shrink 7% EVs grew I think 60%. As they say, statistics are like thong underwear what they reveal is suggestive what they hide is vital.

AMIRZA786

People concentrate way too much on the market share numbers. Competitors need to be able to produce vehicles in not only large numbers, but actually make profit on each one. BTW, you've shared way too much information about yourself, at least more than I care to hear

bitkahuna

iTrader: (20)

i happened to talk to an engineer from uh, a very big automaker recently about that and he said they're working to double, then triple volume in the next several years. i asked "yes, but are they making any money?" he said yes on higher end trims, but losing money on low end ones. that's not great.

if cyber truck is even half way decent it could be devastating to the traditional 3 truck makers.

and at that point, price becomes an issue, and production cost REALLY matters. seems like elon musk has already gamed this all out.