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Old 01-28-23, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
When I leased my Polestar last year, the EV tax credit was discounted from MSRP, so in my case I benefited
correct, I assume most if not all manufacturers except Tesla forward the tax credit to lessees.
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Old 01-28-23, 12:09 PM
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So I was really considering the Model 3 lease, I looked at the cost of my wife's daily driving the Sienna (gas, maint, insurance etc) and decided I'm just going to wait until our Ioniq's lease is up later this year. I'm just going to buy the Model 3 Performance outright. Hopefully the price doesn't go up, but if it does, oh well! Can't wait, I'm totally hyped!

Tesla made a brilliant move with the price cuts. It's putting a ton of pressure on other automakers, who don't have the margins Tesla has. I'm curious to see how Hyundai and Kia will react...I'm already hearing from people that they are offering for free features in their Ioniq 5 and EV6 that they use to charge for. Let the price wars begin!
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Old 01-28-23, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by RXSF
correct, I assume most if not all manufacturers except Tesla forward the tax credit to lessees.
I don't think I qualify for them anyway
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Old 01-28-23, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I don't think I qualify for them anyway
credits taken by the lessor aren’t impacted by the income etc of the lessee. You might not qualify for a credit if you purchase, but you can get a broadly equivalent benefit if the lessor rolls the credit amount into the lease and treats it as closing cash/down payment.
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Originally Posted by swajames
credits taken by the lessor aren’t impacted by the income etc of the lessee. You might not qualify for a credit if you purchase, but you can get a broadly equivalent benefit if the lessor rolls the credit amount into the lease and treats it as closing cash/down payment.
I see. Makes sense. Thanks for the info!
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Old 01-28-23, 04:24 PM
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Amazing video! Now I have a new understanding of "Highland". If Tesla can slash the cost of manufacturing the Model 3 twenty five to fifty percent, I feel sorry for all the other auto manufacturers
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Yes that was a good video and it all makes sense. Bottom line is - don't buy a model3 right now, wait for the Highland model3.
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Old 01-29-23, 02:31 PM
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The Tesla news keeps pouring in

Tesla Confirms Next-Gen Vehicle Platform Is Under Development

It's expected to halve the cost compared to the Tesla Model 3/Model Y vehicle platform



Tesla is working on an all-new, next-generation vehicle platform, which is expected to be ready in the not-too-distant future.

According to the company's Q4 and full-year 2022 financial report, the new platform is currently under development and we will be able to learn more about it at the upcoming Investor Day event, on March 1, 2023.
"Our next generation vehicle platform is under development, with additional details to be shared at Investor Day (March 1st 2023)."
Not much is known about Tesla's next-generation platform, although according to the previous reports (in October 2022, and earlier this month), it's envisioned for electric cars smaller in size than the Model 3/Model Y. Additionally, the platform is expected to bring a step change in vehicle cost (cut it in half). According to Tesla CEO Elon Musk, EVs based on the new platform would be produced at a volume higher than all other vehicles combined.

This leaves a lot for speculation - whether we are talking about a sub-compact, entry-level electric model for the masses (aka "$25,000 Tesla car") or maybe a stripped-down robotaxi (a very simple, automatic transportation device).

Historically, Tesla had several mostly independent projects:Some of the vehicles listed above share parts and systems, but as we understand, the third generation would be for a new set of electric cars - smaller and more affordable - than the Tesla Model 3/Model Y.

To achieve a reduction of cost as high as 50% (undefined in details, but probably related to hardware/production), Tesla would probably have to apply many new technologies to simplify everything possible. Another thing would be the production of millions of units annually.

Let's also note that a new platform is one thing, while the development of vehicles based on it is another thing. Tesla is silent about the new electric car/cars.

Time will tell what is in the works, but in general, it's always positive news that electric cars will be less expensive - maybe even cheaper than gasoline cars (hopefully)

https://insideevs.com/news/633424/te...r-development/
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Highland Tau
Can't help but notice the word play on the Model Tau. lol





PS- I don't subscribe to the "Standard Model" of particle physics aka the "particle zoo" but couldn't help wonder if this is where they got the Tau....
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Originally Posted by Margate330
Highland Tau
Can't help but notice the word play on the Model Tau. lol





PS- I don't subscribe to the "Standard Model" of particle physics aka the "particle zoo" but couldn't help wonder if this is where they got the Tau....
I believe this is the symbol:



For the mathamatical constant. Don't ask me to explain any further, math was not my subject
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Looks like Tesla hired some serious design talent!
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Originally Posted by Margate330
Looks like Tesla hired some serious design talent!
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Haha I'm not a fan of the looks either, but it is pretty cool, and I'm sure when they actually release it, it will look better
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Ford cut Mustang Mach E prices today. Makes sense, because when the Tesla price cuts were announced - the Mach E forums were loaded with people cancelling their orders and ordering the Y instead.
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isn't competition great?
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