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Old 02-14-23, 02:52 PM
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That triggers the petrol head part of me. Electric Ferrari, blasphemy.
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EVs aren't a threat to Ferrari from a sales perspective. The EV threat to Ferrari is that governments force them to go all EV, and their customers don't want them (the hybrids are enough electrification for sports cars). Let's see how Porsche does with the 718 EV - but the 718 didn't sell anyway, so any improvement with the 718 EV isn't much of a hurdle.
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Old 02-14-23, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
That triggers the petrol head part of me. Electric Ferrari, blasphemy.
That is blasphemy. Ferrari, Lambo ect should stick with ICE. Maybe mild hybrid to give them an edge off the line
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Old 02-14-23, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
That is blasphemy. Ferrari, Lambo ect should stick with ICE. Maybe mild hybrid to give them an edge off the line
No sure if serious.

A 1500hp EV with the soul of a Ferrari sounds good. Figuratively speaking since it makes no sound.
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Originally Posted by lexusnyca
EVs aren't a threat to Ferrari from a sales perspective. The EV threat to Ferrari is that governments force them to go all EV, and their customers don't want them (the hybrids are enough electrification for sports cars). Let's see how Porsche does with the 718 EV - but the 718 didn't sell anyway, so any improvement with the 718 EV isn't much of a hurdle.
I don't think so either. If a Ferrari/Lambo/Porsche buyer wants an EV the'll just buy a Tesla
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Old 02-14-23, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
No sure if serious.

A 1500hp EV with the soul of a Ferrari sounds good. Figuratively speaking since it makes no sound.
I've talked to plenty of exotic car owners, and I don't think most of this generation would even contemplate an EV drivetrain. If I was buying a Ferrari it would be for the engine/sound. If I'm just looking to go fast and use it as a daily, Plaid
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Old 02-14-23, 03:41 PM
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What do people honestly want? Relatively slow gas guzzler that makes tons of noise or a silent rocket?

Speaking of silent rocket why doesn't Tesla hand build a few Roadster 2's? Make 50 a year and call it a day.
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Old 02-14-23, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
What do people honestly want? Relatively slow gas guzzler that makes tons of noise or a silent rocket?

Speaking of silent rocket why doesn't Tesla hand build a few Roadster 2's? Make 50 a year and call it a day.
Well I wouldn't call a Ferrari or Lambo slow LOL. If you are spending $250,000 to over $2 million on an exotic car, you are buying it for the visceral experience, not just speed. Again if I was buying a Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche, I wouldn't want it to have electric motors. I would buy a Tesla for that. Sorry, putting electric motors in exotics should be off limits unless it's a mild hybrid for performance. Later on as the demographic buyers change than maybe it will become acceptable
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Old 02-14-23, 04:22 PM
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I hear what you're saying I feel the same way. But at the same time having an EV blow away your mega buck car is embarrassing no matter how much soul the car has.
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Old 02-14-23, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
I hear what you're saying I feel the same way. But at the same time having an EV blow away your mega buck car is embarrassing no matter how much soul the car has.
With multiple brands of EV able to achieve near-supercar acceleration, I think acceleration simply isn't going to seem as exclusive in the future. Hell, the last gen Accord could blow away a '60s muscle car in a straight line. And all this is happening just as road congestion and surveillance leaves drivers with less and less opportunity to use that power.
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Old 02-14-23, 04:43 PM
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Hell, the last gen Accord could blow away a '60s muscle car in a straight line.
That's a different discussion, 60 year old car vs. contemporary.
And all this is happening just as road congestion and surveillance leaves drivers with less and less opportunity to use that power.
This is true. If you decide to use all your Plaid's power on public roads you'll probably get arrested.
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Old 02-14-23, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by LexFinally
With multiple brands of EV able to achieve near-supercar acceleration, I think acceleration simply isn't going to seem as exclusive in the future. Hell, the last gen Accord could blow away a '60s muscle car in a straight line. And all this is happening just as road congestion and surveillance leaves drivers with less and less opportunity to use that power.
I don't know, EVs are already able to beat "supercar" acceleration, at least until speeds get over 150 or so. Even more extreme acceleration is the next frontier, getting to 60 in well under 2 seconds and persisting until closer to 200 or so. The other area for development is handling, there's some room for improvement there. But there's no supposed supercar that comes close to say a Plaid relative to each MSRP. It takes a lot of $$$ to beat one.
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Wow, Tesla has been a busy little bee building out that charging network



Source: Washington Post (credit to mmarshall for posting the link in his thread)
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Originally Posted by lexusnyca
EVs aren't a threat to Ferrari from a sales perspective. The EV threat to Ferrari is that governments force them to go all EV, and their customers don't want them (the hybrids are enough electrification for sports cars). Let's see how Porsche does with the 718 EV - but the 718 didn't sell anyway, so any improvement with the 718 EV isn't much of a hurdle.
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That is blasphemy. Ferrari, Lambo ect should stick with ICE. Maybe mild hybrid to give them an edge off the line
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I've talked to plenty of exotic car owners, and I don't think most of this generation would even contemplate an EV drivetrain. If I was buying a Ferrari it would be for the engine/sound. If I'm just looking to go fast and use it as a daily, Plaid
EU has just announced no new ICE sales after 2030 (just 7 years away). so enthusiasts better start liking ev's. and exotic car makers have obviously done a ton with hybrid tech and can and will no doubt go full soon.
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Old 02-15-23, 10:22 AM
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There is more to driving a sports car than just straight line power and speed. Weight is the key component. These EVs are too heavy with current technology, even the hybrid sports cars face a struggle to keep the weight down with the batteries and motors and regen brakes, etc. And few sports cars have carbon fiber tubs.
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