Margate330

On the flip side, if Musk wanted to have more control and a bigger share of Tesla now is his chance, antics and all...
He sold many of his shares already on the downward slope of the share price- pre Twitter takeover. haha

Now that would be genius.
Nothing is ever what it appears to be that's for sure.
Maybe he's making a huge mistake or maybe it's by design, who knows.

SW17LS

I wouldn't put any of that past Musk at all!

tex2670

It's impressive that there's a 3.5 year old Tesla thread that hasn't been locked. (yet)

LeX2K

My not financial advice is if you think a certain company is going to be the Tesla killer (since Tesla is losing market share) that is the company to invest in. I've had discussions with people (similar to what has been posted here) that were adamant once the big players get serious Tesla is finished. For some reason they never, ever invest in the Tesla killers. Not one dime that I know of.

SW17LS

So here's a great example. Musk comes onstage at a Dave Chappelle show, these are Tesla's customers...and even more damning they are less left leaning than most because of Chappelle being advocate of free speech and "anti-wokism"...and he gets booed.

Thats BAD.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradtem...h=48f04ef7dd3c

swajames

Musk isn't playing 4D chess here. He's struggling, and his ego is getting in the way of any return to something approaching normality. There is only one viable path for Twitter, and that's to restore advertisers revenue. That few large spenders will want their brand on a platform where the owner and CEO is more focused on edgelording the latest white hot meme and sharing alt-right conspiracy theories than running the business is hardly surprising. At some point the penny might drop. The MyPillow guy isn't going to spend enough to pay the interest he's saddled Twitter with.

And it's this that's dragging on TSLA. Well that and Musk's uncontrolled lunacy exposing how weak and ineffectual TSLA's board are.

LeX2K

Going straight to p*****s now you're trying to get this thread closed.

I do find it funny that you say the Toyota family is going to be fine, when you left the Toyota family.

SW17LS

Toyota doesn't need my business to be fine. Toyota made a decision to stop offering competitive high end luxury products which lost them my business, but there are plenty of people who buy Toyotas.

And like it or not, Musk has become a political figure, he's done that himself. You can't discuss him and how he impacts Tesla's business without understanding that. Its not about what any of of our political leanings may be, its that any politics and business don't mix.

LeX2K

We can discuss the thread topic without bringing up the P word over and over. You should know better.
Of course they do. You abandoning the brand (valid reasons IMO) means others are doing the same. Every customer is important that's how business works.

peteharvey

I wonder if it is wise for Musk to run three very different types of businesses in Space X, Tesla and Twitter - simultaneously?
He may end up being a Jack of all trades, but a master of none.

Margate330

He is playing 4D chess against multiple billionares with financial interests(directly or indirectly) to make him a "Yes Boy" in the companies in question.
Just my opinion.

The other stuff you mention I would love to talk ideas about but is forbidden because it reaches into areas and conversation that are not allowed here but just my opinion.
Doesn't mean they aren't fun subjects to talk anout but I will not do it here.

SW17LS

In the current situation I don't see how. This is all over financial publications right now.

This is another concern, and while Tesla has not come out and said this, NASA has publicly said so about Space X.

LeX2K

Which we are not allowed to discuss HERE.

The less advertising on Twitter the better, why would anyone want mega corporations to control what they can and cannot see.

DaveGS4

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Sw17ls. Exit this thread. No politics, you know better.

swajames, warning for you same issue. Know you were responding to a comment so not booting unless it recurs

swajames

Advertising is the only real revenue stream Twitter has. It's going to take a fair few of those $8 blue check marks to make even the smallest dent in the $1billion per year interest charge that Twitter now has to service because of how Musk funded the deal.

The reality is that if there are no ads, there's no Twitter.