VinFast VF32 and VF33
04-13-21, 02:51 PM
#31
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P.S. Quit while you're ahead.
04-13-21, 07:56 PM
#32
Lexus Test Driver
Still no clue as to why you're being so absurdly adversarial regarding this topic. I could give a #*&! less whether VinFast takes over Tesla or fails.
04-13-21, 10:41 PM
#33
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04-13-21, 11:55 PM
#34
Lexus Test Driver
I'm just not going to get into a meaningless semantic debate about what "launch" means. If your argument is that VinFast can start taking orders internationally for these cars sometime in 2022 then there's nothing to discuss, they could go ahead and take orders in the USA right now if they want. My original question was regarding battery supply and this remains unanswered despite your continuing attempts to be obnoxious about it.
05-19-21, 11:22 AM
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05-19-21, 11:23 AM
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05-19-21, 11:37 AM
#38
Companies in the U.S. go after customers for libel/slander all the time, settle with non disclosure agreements, etc.
05-19-21, 11:43 AM
#39
No, not directly, which is why i said it's not all that different. Elon quickly and publicly goes against any crash victim that claims that it was under Autopilot and refuses to concede that the Autopilot technology is truly less than what it is being made out to be.
Companies in the U.S. go after customers for libel/slander all the time, settle with non disclosure agreements, etc.
Companies in the U.S. go after customers for libel/slander all the time, settle with non disclosure agreements, etc.
Tesla has been sold in China for a couple years now, which is also a communist country like Vietnam. Do you recall Elon ever siccing the Chinese Police on his customers for giving his cars a bad review?
05-19-21, 12:23 PM
#40
The point isn't about big companies denying accidents as being their fault. The point is that this company is using what is effectively a communist police state to silence people they don't like, simply because they have control over it. This is very different from a lawsuit.
Tesla has been sold in China for a couple years now, which is also a communist country like Vietnam. Do you recall Elon ever siccing the Chinese Police on his customers for giving his cars a bad review?
Tesla has been sold in China for a couple years now, which is also a communist country like Vietnam. Do you recall Elon ever siccing the Chinese Police on his customers for giving his cars a bad review?
05-19-21, 12:30 PM
#41
Here's a snippet from the article:
In the now-deleted video, a copy of which remained on the Internet Archive website, Hoang had said he was proud to own a VinFast car and was only reluctantly highlighting problems.
“Although Mr. Tran Van Hoang proactively removed those clips, we saved all the evidence and have sent our complaints to the police,” the statement said.
“The police have received our submission and have scheduled a time to work with Mr. Hoang”.
“Although Mr. Tran Van Hoang proactively removed those clips, we saved all the evidence and have sent our complaints to the police,” the statement said.
“The police have received our submission and have scheduled a time to work with Mr. Hoang”.
Does this sound like any other car company to you?
05-19-21, 01:08 PM
#42
No sane car company will go after someone for giving a poor review.
Here's a snippet from the article:
So let me get this straight. This guy wasn't even badmouthing the car, just highlighting some of his criticisms. He removed his video, but VinFast saved it and called the police on him, who "scheduled a time to work" with him.
Does this sound like any other car company to you?
Here's a snippet from the article:
So let me get this straight. This guy wasn't even badmouthing the car, just highlighting some of his criticisms. He removed his video, but VinFast saved it and called the police on him, who "scheduled a time to work" with him.
Does this sound like any other car company to you?
Ferrari once supposedly went after an Instagrammer because it didn't like his fashion and pictures.
Ford sued John Cena for selling his GT.
05-19-21, 01:22 PM
#43
It's a relatively popular YouTuber in Vietnam, not just any customer. So if his claims weren't justifiable or were lies, then the company should try to protect itself. Seems like less of a legit video with complaints than some sort of clickbait'y video. It's a double edged sword for VinFast. They're trying to keep a positive reputation of its vehicles and quality as it's trying to make international expansions, but this reaction probably brought more attention than it should have.
No matter how you try to sugarcoat, what VinFast is doing here is something that is only permissible in authoritarian governments, where the large company is essentially a part of the government, and to criticize the company means to criticize the government, meaning you're going to be prosecuted like a criminal before you even get a trial- just like the Vietnamese YouTuber.
Other companies may sue whomever, but I guarantee you most of those suits will be thrown out of court here unless they have merit. Hence, most companies aren't stupid enough to try it. If VinFast wants to compete with other companies in America, it better realize that it has to play by the same laws.
05-19-21, 01:25 PM
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05-19-21, 01:28 PM
#45
Again, there is no justification whatsoever for this type of authoritarian behavior. This will be the Achilles heel of Chinese companies and others such VinFast if they want to establish themselves in the free market.