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Old 05-19-21 | 11:56 AM
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No, that's not my only experience. I have friends with Kia and Hyundai products. They don't seem to last more than a few years.
"My friends said so" isn't exactly the most objective or reliable metric for quality. Just sayin'... I think you need to go do some research on Consumer Reports, JD Power, or actually go see the cars yourself in person before jumping to conclusions based on decades-old personal experiences or anecdotes from friends.
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Uninspiring exterior
Old 05-19-21 | 10:56 PM
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No matter how you slice it, seriously UGLY rear end. There is no need to keep making specialty cars unattractive.
Old 05-20-21 | 03:29 AM
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I like it, very modern. Range looks good as well 👍👍
Old 05-20-21 | 05:04 AM
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I like it, very modern. Range looks good as well 👍👍
Agreed! It looks very promising indeed!👍😁
Old 05-20-21 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Motorola
"My friends said so" isn't exactly the most objective or reliable metric for quality. Just sayin'... I think you need to go do some research on Consumer Reports, JD Power, or actually go see the cars yourself in person before jumping to conclusions based on decades-old personal experiences or anecdotes from friends.
Wow, surprised to see someone actually defend Hyundai/Kia on a Toyota forum.

My experience is also more recent, I occasionally drive one of our Kia Niro subcompact econoboxes here at work. Damn things are almost as bad as the glorified golf carts we had (a.k.a. Toyota Prius) prior. They get on the freeway in about twenty minutes and are cramped beyond belief. Also, I can see them falling apart quickly.

Meanwhile, my 22 year old SC400 is holding up quite well.
Old 05-20-21 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Motorola
before jumping to conclusions based on decades-old personal experiences or anecdotes from friends.
Originally Posted by perfctreig
Wow, surprised to see someone actually defend Hyundai/Kia on a Toyota forum.

My experience is also more recent, I occasionally drive one of our Kia Niro subcompact econoboxes here at work. Damn things are almost as bad as the glorified golf carts we had (a.k.a. Toyota Prius) prior. They get on the freeway in about twenty minutes and are cramped beyond belief. Also, I can see them falling apart quickly.

Meanwhile, my 22 year old SC400 is holding up quite well.
My brother had a Hyundai Elantra GT, nice car BUT...engine had to replaced just before warranty expired. Constant CEL issues. Exhaust needed to be replaced. My other brother has a Palisade...so far so good, his interior was. not subject to smelly recall for the headrests.

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Old 05-20-21 | 10:59 AM
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My brother had a Hyundai Elantra GT, nice car BUT...engine had to replaced just before warranty expired. Constant CEL issues. Exhaust needed to be replaced. My other brother has a Palisade...so far so good, his interior subject to smelly recall for the headrests.
oh, man, I totally forgot about my friend's Hyundai Excel. That was a massive failure. We still laugh about it.
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Originally Posted by perfctreig
Wow, surprised to see someone actually defend Hyundai/Kia on a Toyota forum.

My experience is also more recent, I occasionally drive one of our Kia Niro subcompact econoboxes here at work. Damn things are almost as bad as the glorified golf carts we had (a.k.a. Toyota Prius) prior. They get on the freeway in about twenty minutes and are cramped beyond belief. Also, I can see them falling apart quickly.

Meanwhile, my 22 year old SC400 is holding up quite well.
Why surprise? Most people here are not stuck 20 years in the past.

Yes, it makes perfect sense to compare a Kia Niro to an SC400.

Since it competes directly with the Prius, it sounds like it's doing its job.
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Originally Posted by Motorola
Most people here are not stuck 20 years in the past.

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Hyundai products from 20 year are not as bad as as some on here are making it. I don’t recall hyundai products, having a warning not to park outside 20 years ago because of engine fires.
Old 05-20-21 | 02:33 PM
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Hyundai products from 20 year are not as bad as as some on here are making it. I don’t recall hyundai products, having a warning not to park outside 20 years ago because of engine fires.
Hyundai/Kia products from 20 years ago literally fell apart if you breathed on them.

I'd take a couple pre-emptive recalls over that any day. If you don't like recalls, feel free to join Honda and Toyota in getting investigated by the NHTSA for spontaneous fires and sudden loss of steering, all in the past year.
Old 05-20-21 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Motorola
Hyundai/Kia products from 20 years ago literally fell apart if you breathed on them.

I'd take a couple pre-emptive recalls over that any day. If you don't like recalls, feel free to join Honda and Toyota in getting investigated by the NHTSA for spontaneous fires and sudden loss of steering, all in the past year.
20 to 30-year-old Hyundai’s are not as bad as people say....and newer ones are not as good as people claim.
Old 05-20-21 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by EZZ
Fun video. Kia is doing stuff that gets good attention and the silhouette of the EV6 reminds me of the Lucid Air. I like that tagline, "Movement that Inspires". A lot better than the cliche, "Experience Amazing", especially when there isn't much amazing in the Lexus stable. I am surprised Lexus continues to have record profit quarters. To me, the brand is losing psychological market share.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
20 to 30-year-old Hyundai’s are not as bad as people say....and newer ones are not as good as people claim.
Which "people"? And under what metric?

Advocating for a Hyundai Excel over a Palisade is a strange hill to die on.
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Originally Posted by FatherTo1
Fun video. Kia is doing stuff that gets good attention and the silhouette of the EV6 reminds me of the Lucid Air. I like that tagline, "Movement that Inspires". A lot better than the cliche, "Experience Amazing", especially when there isn't much amazing in the Lexus stable. I am surprised Lexus continues to have record profit quarters. To me, the brand is losing psychological market share.
Have you ever considered that you might have outgrown Lexus? People do move on from brands. In my opinion almost every Lexus is more exciting than any Kia


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