"ICE-ing" where regular cars park in charging spots...
03-31-21, 10:37 AM
#31
New chargers are often put close to the building because that's where a big enough power supply is easy to tap into. Far reaches of parking lots don't often have a power supply big enough to place a charger.
Now in many cases we're seeing outer reaches of the parking lot used because they're also putting independent power units that need additional space, these are usually by Electrify America or EV go, etc which are not free.
Now in many cases we're seeing outer reaches of the parking lot used because they're also putting independent power units that need additional space, these are usually by Electrify America or EV go, etc which are not free.
03-31-21, 10:50 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by pbm317
New chargers are often put close to the building because that's where a big enough power supply is easy to tap into. Far reaches of parking lots don't often have a power supply big enough to place a charger.
Now in many cases we're seeing outer reaches of the parking lot used because they're also putting independent power units that need additional space, these are usually by Electrify America or EV go, etc which are not free.
Now in many cases we're seeing outer reaches of the parking lot used because they're also putting independent power units that need additional space, these are usually by Electrify America or EV go, etc which are not free.
03-31-21, 05:32 PM
#33
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https://insideevs.com/news/497446/te...z2hofMo42I9fDA
Apparently this is sort of a thing. I hate electric cars but this is rather low.
That said, if I were a paying customer at a place of business and a Tesla spot was the last open parking space, I would take it and not lose any sleep over the matter.
Apparently this is sort of a thing. I hate electric cars but this is rather low.
That said, if I were a paying customer at a place of business and a Tesla spot was the last open parking space, I would take it and not lose any sleep over the matter.
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03-31-21, 07:26 PM
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lol, we are simply not going to get anywhere here. It's the same problem as wearing masks in this country. Since it is such a "huge inconvenience" to wear a mask, its no wonder how the pandemic affected this country, versus other countries where citizens follow the rules.
03-31-21, 07:29 PM
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I know this wasn't directed to me but I'll respond to it anyway...I wouldn't lose sleep parking in these spots. I won't take one to be spiteful, but I absolutely will if they're the only ones left.
Why? Because in most cases these spots are in front of a huge grocery store in which one walks hundreds of cumulative yards to shop...but I am supposed to accept that they desperately need to be 50' closer to the store? It's just cheap virtue signaling (which society as a whole is flooded with) by the store, paid for by the inconveniencing of everyone else.
("But...what about handicapped parking spaces!" you might ask? Besides being mandated by law in many places, they're also wider and often have buffer spaces between them, allowing for the safe and easy use of wheelchairs and other mobility devices. Totally legit.)
Why? Because in most cases these spots are in front of a huge grocery store in which one walks hundreds of cumulative yards to shop...but I am supposed to accept that they desperately need to be 50' closer to the store? It's just cheap virtue signaling (which society as a whole is flooded with) by the store, paid for by the inconveniencing of everyone else.
("But...what about handicapped parking spaces!" you might ask? Besides being mandated by law in many places, they're also wider and often have buffer spaces between them, allowing for the safe and easy use of wheelchairs and other mobility devices. Totally legit.)
03-31-21, 08:41 PM
#36
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At the end of the day, IMO this is a class thing. If a spot is marked for someone who isn’t me...I don’t park in it. Whether it’s illegal or not.
04-01-21, 04:00 AM
#37
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Maybe. But in the same sentence there was an acknowledgment that the pregnant person isn't inconvenienced by walking an additional 50'; so then why not leave the spot open and walk the additional 50' yourself?
04-01-21, 04:01 AM
#38
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Except at a Hilton. I'm not a Blue Diamond member...but I will most definitely park in a Blue Diamond member level reserved spot....
04-01-21, 05:10 AM
#39
The chargers were placed close to the buildings for the reason you mentioned, easier installation and also so that our security guards can keep a better eye on them because there is abuse if not monitored. We have a 4 hour limit and the chargers turn off outside of business hours. Tenants need to sign in and register their car to ensure only tenants use the chargers. Its an extra step but I think worth the trade-off to potentially never pay for "fuel" again if you work at the property indefinitely. The electric is tied to our meter so the tenants do not pay for the charge. It has still turned into a bit of a headache for our guards since we had to take up a few prime spaces.
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04-01-21, 06:16 AM
#40
I understand EV charges being placed at apartment buildings and hotels, but why malls or other places of business such as office buildings? I would expect anyone with an EV should have planned to have enough charge to do their shopping, go to work, etc., and charge at home or an actual charging station. I don't expect to go to the local grocery store or my place of business or a mall and get a spot up front & fill my car with gas...OK, Costco being the exception- but even that is separate from the actual store.
04-01-21, 06:27 AM
#41
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I understand EV charges being placed at apartment buildings and hotels, but why malls or other places of business such as office buildings? I would expect anyone with an EV should have planned to have enough charge to do their shopping, go to work, etc., and charge at home or an actual charging station. I don't expect to go to the local grocery store or my place of business or a mall and get a spot up front & fill my car with gas...OK, Costco being the exception- but even that is separate from the actual store.
04-01-21, 07:13 AM
#42
I understand EV charges being placed at apartment buildings and hotels, but why malls or other places of business such as office buildings? I would expect anyone with an EV should have planned to have enough charge to do their shopping, go to work, etc., and charge at home or an actual charging station. I don't expect to go to the local grocery store or my place of business or a mall and get a spot up front & fill my car with gas...OK, Costco being the exception- but even that is separate from the actual store.
It easily makes financial sense to install at an office building for differentiation. There is a lot of competition in real estate and any edge helps through various amenities. If an average lease is worth a few hundred grand in income, and an electric charger factors into even 1% of the decision maker's decision to sign a new lease or renew, then the chargers have already paid for themselves from one or two leases. We timed one of our installs with a renewal where the decision maker had a Tesla. Its obviously hard to say what exactly goes into a renewal decision but it certainly didn't hurt.
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04-01-21, 07:27 AM
#43
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I understand EV charges being placed at apartment buildings and hotels, but why malls or other places of business such as office buildings? I would expect anyone with an EV should have planned to have enough charge to do their shopping, go to work, etc., and charge at home or an actual charging station. I don't expect to go to the local grocery store or my place of business or a mall and get a spot up front & fill my car with gas...OK, Costco being the exception- but even that is separate from the actual store.
The newer EVs coming out though charge so fast that shopping while charging may become obsolete. The EV6 and Ionic can go from 15-80% charge in 15 minutes with their new 800V architecture. Barely enough time to go order a Starbucks with a bathroom break.
04-01-21, 08:09 AM
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