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EV ftw!!!
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1 - For years we have been hearing, "Wait till the big boys come in..."
2 - It is blantantly true. The mighty Porsche claimed 500 mile range when the Taycan was under development.
Now, compare the Audi Porsche platform to the Model S and they fall even shorter.
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing but awe for the incredible history and accomplishments of Porsche. They are a legendary car company.
I am simply comparing the numbers.
We were in our Model 3 when I first saw the drop dead gorgeous Taycan...
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There were very few cars in America back then. Only the rich could own a car. There were no gas sttions either. So electric powered cars made more sense, right?
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My point is simple. Tesla's EV tech is far ahead of any other car maker. I make this point for 2 reasons.
1 - For years we have been hearing, "Wait till the big boys come in..."
2 - It is blantantly true. The mighty Porsche claimed 500 mile range when the Taycan was under development.
Now, compare the Audi Porsche platform to the Model S and they fall even shorter.
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing but awe for the incredible history and accomplishments of Porsche. They are a legendary car company.
I am simply comparing the numbers.
We were in our Model 3 when I first saw the drop dead gorgeous Taycan...
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1 - For years we have been hearing, "Wait till the big boys come in..."
2 - It is blantantly true. The mighty Porsche claimed 500 mile range when the Taycan was under development.
Now, compare the Audi Porsche platform to the Model S and they fall even shorter.
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing but awe for the incredible history and accomplishments of Porsche. They are a legendary car company.
I am simply comparing the numbers.
We were in our Model 3 when I first saw the drop dead gorgeous Taycan...
As for the big boys…mmm, the new Taycan is gonna sell 10,000 units in the US…done really well…I think it’s outselling the S and even sells for more money……no doubt Porsche gets the profit part right….it’s preceived as a great EV. All on their first try. Now here comes the Audi Etron or Merceds EQS…Hummer too…yet Tesla delays their new Cybertruck.
Gas and electric came to the market around the same time. Gas, steam or electric were the choice. One in 3 were EV. Lots of taxis too.
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It’s just strange that a Tesla 3 with a huge weight advantage is compared against the Etron which tips the scales at 5000lbs yet is deemed so superior with the EV tech. If the Tesla cars had all the bells and whistles as well as all the new features, the performance advantage would be diminished. It’s great that the range is excellent on “some” Tesla 3…same with performance…but it obviously comes as a compromise such as no speed cluster, no heads up display, no 4 wheel steering, no Nappa leather, no sunshades etc. Heck, even the new Tesla S cost cut out the height adjustment for the front seat belts…
As for the big boys…mmm, the new Taycan is gonna sell 10,000 units in the US…done really well…I think it’s outselling the S and even sells for more money……no doubt Porsche gets the profit part right….it’s preceived as a great EV. All on their first try. Now here comes the Audi Etron or Merceds EQS…Hummer too…yet Tesla delays their new Cybertruck.
As for the big boys…mmm, the new Taycan is gonna sell 10,000 units in the US…done really well…I think it’s outselling the S and even sells for more money……no doubt Porsche gets the profit part right….it’s preceived as a great EV. All on their first try. Now here comes the Audi Etron or Merceds EQS…Hummer too…yet Tesla delays their new Cybertruck.
There is not doubt Porsche and Audi are beautifully crafted cars. I also agree my car needs blind spot mirrors (not just on the tablet screen) and HUD would be awesome. I love the HUD on our RX. The blind spot indicators on both our Lexi will flat out spoil you and a offer great safety.
I will tell you this. After owning and driving the techie Model 3, I find the Lexus dash and controls unnecessarily complicated. The voice commands. Over the air updates are usually pretty minor bug fixes and functionality, but sometimes are really amazing. That's my experience, you may not agree. And there is so much more...
Tesla is not trying to make an electric Porsche or anything else. Teslas are different and futuristic. They are not for everyone, I can tell you that. If you are looking for a Porsche Audi, a Tesla ain't gonna be it.
Teslas, with all their fittment issues (which have improved greatly), lack of BSM and HUD, and all their shortommings garner the highest customer satisfaction of any car. Owners are rabid about their cars.
Regarding the big boys, from an EV tech standpoint, they have fallen far short. And many have been building cars for 100 years. Those are the numbers.
Again, each to their own. Personally, I love my GS; it is a great car. If I were buying today, a Tesla Model 3 is all that interests me. Everything else is old and has been done before.
Tesla stopped Model S and X production early this year to change over to the refreshed car. They just started building them again. The wait time to get one is next year. Tesla just cannot build cars fast enough to supply the demand. When Giga Austin and Giga Berlin start production Tesla should have more time for the SEMI, (the butt-ugly) Cybertruk and the incredible Roadster 2. And word is, Shanghai is close on the Model 2.
But of course everything is on Elon time, whatever that is...
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