F150 Lightning
05-16-22, 10:55 AM
#421
Lexus Test Driver
It does have a few pluses in that it has a 500 mile range, and charges very fast at a DC fast charger. When the guy pulled in next to us, my wife and I were charging her 2020 Ioniq....talk about slow charging....60% to 90 percent in 35 minutes LOL. Anyway he pulled in, I think he was around 40 percent (the EA chargers show battery percentage info on the screen), he went into the safeway, and 15 minutes later he came out and he was nearly at 90 percent and left. We were still still in the 70 percent range LOL
05-16-22, 10:58 AM
#422
Lexus Fanatic
The issue is designers trying to make them look different.
05-16-22, 11:01 AM
#423
Lexus Champion
I can’t think of many battery EV cars that look truly great. Always seems to be some compromise in the styling and design. The frameless window design is not great IMO. . SUVs are a little different, the new F150 looks normal which is good. I really admire that the new F150 is body on frame as well
05-16-22, 11:06 AM
#424
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
The Model S looks great, Lucid Air I think looks great, the new BMW i4 I think looks great. Once we get through this idea that EVs have to look weird, and they start making more than look like cars, they'll be even easier to adopt.
The issue is designers trying to make them look different.
The issue is designers trying to make them look different.
05-16-22, 11:24 AM
#425
Lexus Fanatic
I think they certainly can make beautiful EVs...they will come...
The Ionic 5 is an example of a car that is really different but I agree it looks good.
The Ionic 5 is an example of a car that is really different but I agree it looks good.
06-02-22, 12:41 PM
#426
Lexus Test Driver
This truck boogies...i think its faster than anything Lexus has in its arsenal
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...-acceleration/
We've just tested a 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning, a top Platinum trim with a $93,609 sticker price.It's far and away quicker than any other F-150, running neck and neck with a Mustang Mach 1 through the quarter-mile.
It's also far quieter than other F-150s and more than 300 pounds lighter than a Rivian R1T, but the brakes faded significantly during our testing.It's hard to imagine anyone not being blown away by the heroic shove of the 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning's two electric motors making a combined 580 horsepower and 775 pound-feet of torque. Nail the throttle from rest and 60 mph arrives in 4.0 seconds flat, on its way to a 12.7-second quarter-mile at 107 mph, just before it hits its 110-mph governed top speed.
Our test vehicle was a top-trim Platinum that includes the larger, 131.0-kWh battery pack, and, with a couple of minor options, wore a sticker price of $93,609. The performance of this first electric F-150 positively dominates any other in Ford's truck lineup, including the Raptor, by more than a second in either metric. Even a Mach-E GT is no quicker in the quarter-mile. And a Mustang Mach 1 would have to be exceptionally well driven to open up the narrowest of gaps in the quarter. The Rivian R1T is substantially quicker—nearly a second in the quarter-mile—and is still the quickest pickup we’ve ever tested. But, surprisingly, in our 30–50-mph and 50–70-mph passing tests, the Lightning essentially ties the Rivian (0.1 second quicker in the former, and 0.1 second slower in the latter). Where the R1T's 908 pound-feet of torque is ramped in smoothly, the Lightning's 775 pound-feet hits hard when smacking the accelerator, to the point that it chirps the front tires at speeds up to 30 mph or so, which tends to generate spontaneous giggles from the power-drunk pilot standing on the pedal.
Braking was a different story, with the Lightning's stoppers fading significantly during our six-stop routine from 70 mph. Although it delivered a solid 180-foot stop (we report the second-best number of the six), after the third one a warning light came on to indicate the brakes were overheating, along with significant fade and smoke, to the point that the truck couldn't keep ABS engaged on the later stops. Although our test may seem extreme, it gives us pause about using the upper reaches of the Lightning's maximum 10,000-pound towing capacity (8500 pounds max for Platinum trims like ours). Many other pickups handle the abuse without complaint, including the heavier Rivian.
That's right: at 6855 pounds, our top-trim Lightning Platinum, 1500-pound battery pack and all, weighed more than 300 pounds less than the smaller R1T. That's also within 100 pounds of a Ram 1500 TRX. Until now, we never thought we'd be impressed by the mass of anything this heavy. But, in light of the Hummer EV's 9000-pound curb weight, the Lightning is practically a Miata. (That might be overstating it, but the Lightning is nearly a Miata lighter than the Hummer).
In addition to being the quickest F-150, the Lightning is also the quietest. We measured a mere 65 decibels at a steady 70-mph cruise. That's solidly quieter than both the R1T and any other F-150. Although some may think all EVs are similarly silent, wind and road noise are still significant factors at highway speeds, and the hulking Lighting pulls off the impressive feat of being quieter than any Tesla we've ever tested.
Maximum cornering certainly isn't the Lightning's forte, but it put up a decent 0.77 g on the skidpad, which is in the ballpark with other full-size trucks.
Get it pointed in a straight line, though, and prepare to be wowed.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...-acceleration/
2022 Ford F-150 Lightning Is Even Quicker Than Expected
At 4.0 seconds flat to 60 mph, Lightning is a very appropriate name.We've just tested a 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning, a top Platinum trim with a $93,609 sticker price.It's far and away quicker than any other F-150, running neck and neck with a Mustang Mach 1 through the quarter-mile.
It's also far quieter than other F-150s and more than 300 pounds lighter than a Rivian R1T, but the brakes faded significantly during our testing.It's hard to imagine anyone not being blown away by the heroic shove of the 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning's two electric motors making a combined 580 horsepower and 775 pound-feet of torque. Nail the throttle from rest and 60 mph arrives in 4.0 seconds flat, on its way to a 12.7-second quarter-mile at 107 mph, just before it hits its 110-mph governed top speed.
Our test vehicle was a top-trim Platinum that includes the larger, 131.0-kWh battery pack, and, with a couple of minor options, wore a sticker price of $93,609. The performance of this first electric F-150 positively dominates any other in Ford's truck lineup, including the Raptor, by more than a second in either metric. Even a Mach-E GT is no quicker in the quarter-mile. And a Mustang Mach 1 would have to be exceptionally well driven to open up the narrowest of gaps in the quarter. The Rivian R1T is substantially quicker—nearly a second in the quarter-mile—and is still the quickest pickup we’ve ever tested. But, surprisingly, in our 30–50-mph and 50–70-mph passing tests, the Lightning essentially ties the Rivian (0.1 second quicker in the former, and 0.1 second slower in the latter). Where the R1T's 908 pound-feet of torque is ramped in smoothly, the Lightning's 775 pound-feet hits hard when smacking the accelerator, to the point that it chirps the front tires at speeds up to 30 mph or so, which tends to generate spontaneous giggles from the power-drunk pilot standing on the pedal.
Braking was a different story, with the Lightning's stoppers fading significantly during our six-stop routine from 70 mph. Although it delivered a solid 180-foot stop (we report the second-best number of the six), after the third one a warning light came on to indicate the brakes were overheating, along with significant fade and smoke, to the point that the truck couldn't keep ABS engaged on the later stops. Although our test may seem extreme, it gives us pause about using the upper reaches of the Lightning's maximum 10,000-pound towing capacity (8500 pounds max for Platinum trims like ours). Many other pickups handle the abuse without complaint, including the heavier Rivian.
That's right: at 6855 pounds, our top-trim Lightning Platinum, 1500-pound battery pack and all, weighed more than 300 pounds less than the smaller R1T. That's also within 100 pounds of a Ram 1500 TRX. Until now, we never thought we'd be impressed by the mass of anything this heavy. But, in light of the Hummer EV's 9000-pound curb weight, the Lightning is practically a Miata. (That might be overstating it, but the Lightning is nearly a Miata lighter than the Hummer).
In addition to being the quickest F-150, the Lightning is also the quietest. We measured a mere 65 decibels at a steady 70-mph cruise. That's solidly quieter than both the R1T and any other F-150. Although some may think all EVs are similarly silent, wind and road noise are still significant factors at highway speeds, and the hulking Lighting pulls off the impressive feat of being quieter than any Tesla we've ever tested.
Maximum cornering certainly isn't the Lightning's forte, but it put up a decent 0.77 g on the skidpad, which is in the ballpark with other full-size trucks.
Get it pointed in a straight line, though, and prepare to be wowed.
06-02-22, 12:54 PM
#428
Lexus Champion
I'm really torn about this truck. Around 2025 I will be replacing my Sienna, and the vehicles I have in my sights are the Rivian R1S Suv, the Polestar 3 Suv, and the F-150 Lightning. The lightning is going to be the cheapest with the Rivian hitting $72K, the Polestar 3 hitting $71K (estimated) and the Lightning long range $55K. The Rivian is an SUV and 7 seater so that one most fits what my wife would want, although I could probably convince her that a Pickup would also meet our needs
06-02-22, 12:56 PM
#429
Lexus Test Driver
I haven't seen anything yet. If this thing gets 300 miles on the highway, that would be incredible given its weight. I foresee a lot of truck shenanigans with this thing...
06-02-22, 01:06 PM
#430
Lexus Champion
Ford has done a lot of internal testing and they claim they have achieved 300 miles with a 1,400 lbs payload
06-04-22, 02:31 PM
#431
Lexus Fanatic
Has this been posted? Automotive expert Scotty says this truck will bankrupt Ford.
06-04-22, 02:37 PM
#432
Lexus Champion
Has this been posted? Automotive expert Scotty says this truck will bankrupt Ford.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkpN-l3cPcA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkpN-l3cPcA
Edit
His knowledge of EV'S is profound. Now I totally regret my purchase. I don't want to get stuck in the middle of nowhere, so I'm immediately going to buy a 1986 Toyota Camry with 250k on it and call it a day....
Last edited by AMIRZA786; 06-04-22 at 02:51 PM.
06-04-22, 02:52 PM
#434
Lexus Champion
06-04-22, 03:49 PM
#435
Lexus Fanatic