4TehNguyen

iTrader: (1)

they were only driving like 70 mph too, going to suck more if you drive 80 like you hvae to here or else you get run over. In my truck there is a big drop off in mpg after 75mph. They also paid $81k for a lariat F150 Lightning, how much gas can the price difference with a lariat regular F150 buy?

AMIRZA786

I wouldn't buy the Lariat, the one I had originally specced out was with the long range battery is under $60K, of course I don't know what dealership markups would be. It wouldn't be about saving money anyway (I could buy a Corolla or Camry for that), it would be more about the better driving experience, the nearly 600 HP and 0 to 60 in 4 seconds. The 70 mpg is only icing. We have decent charging infrastructure making long distance travel across California fairly easy. I've already done it twice in my Polestar

AMIRZA786

Anything is possible. I have Solar that covers 199 percent of my electricity, so it doesn't matter to me

LeX2K

Gas is going to $50 gallon you heard it here first. Source: same as electricity prices are going to skyrocket.

AMIRZA786

So now I'm going to quote you for now on as my new source

LeX2K

That's how modern journalism works.

FatherTo1

We live in NorCal but just came back from visiting Los Angeles. This wasn’t even the most expensive price I saw. There was another station where the cheap gas started at $7.37 and I think topped out at $7.87.

AMIRZA786

I stopped at the EA superchargers in Bakersfield (about 20 miles north of the Grapevine) and the Shell station in front of it I believe was above $8 for Regular. If I had taken my Sienna this weekend I would have been easily paying over $120 per fill up....

FatherTo1

Eight minutes into the first video and I’ve learned nothing. These videos are way too long despite already breaking it up into three segments. I understand they want to maximize their ad revenue with longer videos but it’s a lot of unnecessary filler and boredom watching the two walk around a dealership parking lot. Get to the point already!

Allen K

iTrader: (4)

It's also shaped like a brick vs. the other available EVs. A Rivian R1T will get up to 2.5 miles per kWh in conserve w/ the 21s and that's smaller than the F150.

AMIRZA786

That does makes sense. I'm sure they are going to refine it over time

FatherTo1

That first EA charger stop, in the second video, looks very cumbersome. Roland and Andre seem very confused about how to work the interface and activate their free charging. In the time it took them to figure it out, our Y would’ve already replenished 30% or more. I am sure they will get the hang of it but the Tesla Supercharger stations are dead simple, just like at home:

1. open charger door
2. plug in charger and done

AMIRZA786

For sure! Once you figure out the use of the EA chargers, they are pretty simple. You can tap your phone on the charger to start it

Using an EA Charger:

1. Open Charger door
2. Plug in charger
3. Open the app and tap it on the reader or select the charger from the app and slide it

Tesla definitely makes it simpler. I think it will get simpler over time for everyone

FatherTo1

Hopefully EA improves the user experience quickly as their user base grows, especially if we decide to join that base.

During my chat with the Rivian owner a few weeks back, he mentioned/complained of users constantly causing the chargers to crash. Apparently, the Pasadena free chargers (I don’t think they’re EA) will crash and become inoperable for the next user if you stop charging from inside your EV. You supposedly have to stop charging using only the charging station’s screen. That is not intuitive and poorly designed.

Allen K

iTrader: (4)

Out of Spec range review of the Lightning. TL;DW he got 260 miles out of the extended battery vs. the stated 300 @ ~2mi/kWh. They also ran it to fully dead and had to push it to a charger. Driving starts around 15 minutes in and Kyle the presenter rambles like he's getting paid by the word so watch on 2x

Edit: just finished the video and this was a dumb test. I get that he wanted to pull as much juice out of the Lightning as possible, but he seemed more excited to use the BMS to see the range than actually testing the Lightning.