Tesla Model S Plaid
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I don't think this is a deliberate decision if it was you'd see cost cutting all over the car but you don't. Watching the Plaid tear down by Munro, Tesla put a whole lot of money into the car there are so many custom parts and designs. For whatever reason you can come up with Tesla has no motivation to improve their defect rate.
Hah, doubtful. Elon is the most chill CEO ever, it is (or was) technically breaking NDA to post any FSD beta vids but he basically said we're not going to do anything about it. If that was for example Apple you'd never get away with it they would come after you with a vengeance. Heck Apple comes after shops for having schematics.
Hah, doubtful. Elon is the most chill CEO ever, it is (or was) technically breaking NDA to post any FSD beta vids but he basically said we're not going to do anything about it. If that was for example Apple you'd never get away with it they would come after you with a vengeance. Heck Apple comes after shops for having schematics.
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I don't think this is a deliberate decision if it was you'd see cost cutting all over the car but you don't. Watching the Plaid tear down by Munro, Tesla put a whole lot of money into the car there are so many custom parts and designs. For whatever reason you can come up with Tesla has no motivation to improve their defect rate.
Hah, doubtful. Elon is the most chill CEO ever, it is (or was) technically breaking NDA to post any FSD beta vids but he basically said we're not going to do anything about it. If that was for example Apple you'd never get away with it they would come after you with a vengeance. Heck Apple comes after shops for having schematics.
Hah, doubtful. Elon is the most chill CEO ever, it is (or was) technically breaking NDA to post any FSD beta vids but he basically said we're not going to do anything about it. If that was for example Apple you'd never get away with it they would come after you with a vengeance. Heck Apple comes after shops for having schematics.
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It's always the fault of the customer ultimately, can always buy from a competitor.
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When I mentioned cost cutting, it had to do with sending replacement parts with the panel. There are multiple break points when replacing a panel, they should have sent all the parts that may be needed. as far as Tesla not having motivation, that's probably the fault of their customer base accepting the cars with defects. If I had a Tesla delivered to me with defects, I would refuse delivery
The other unfortunate thing is he wasn't able to fix my hatch misalignment and said that I would have to bring it in to a Telsa body shop or service center to fix because my fix of turning the little bumpers to max out the left side should be how it is fixed. The other thing I need to have looked into is the frunk barely closes so I don't even use it. I think it's a design issue because a lot of people have the same issue.
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also, from the pics, with the upper dash top now aligned even with that door top, the next part down, where the cf would go, doesn't align with that next area down like it did when the top didn't align! not important, but maybe you could share a pic of how it looks on the passenger side.
anyway, i hope it gets resolved very quickly and properly.
Because those companies (probably Toyota in your case) were around decades before you bought your first car from them and all the manufacturing kinks were all worked out. Tesla didn't start mass manufacturing until the Model 3. Look how long it took Hyundai/Kia to finally start getting thing right
my LC500 was also 6 figures. being a lexus, it arrived with ZERO flaws that i could find. that's how you do it.
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man... that's bad especially on a car this expensive.
the rattling window and missing trim is bad enough but with the rubber seal missing you'll likely have tons of wind noise too. ![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
also, from the pics, with the upper dash top now aligned even with that door top, the next part down, where the cf would go, doesn't align with that next area down like it did when the top didn't align! not important, but maybe you could share a pic of how it looks on the passenger side.
anyway, i hope it gets resolved very quickly and properly.
no, respectfully you have that all wrong. tesla never had any interest in selling through traditional dealerships, so they wanted to open their own stores and sell direct. however, dealers are very powerful in most states and they've influenced laws to be in place that prevent car manufacturers from selling 'direct' to consumers, either with or without company owned stores. tesla proceeded with their plan nationwide, but in some states like texas, the dealers prevailed and texas cannot sell cars there, but consumers can still buy online and go pick up the car in a neighboring state. kind of ironic that tesla moved hq to texas.
nevertheless, the S has been around a decade and this plaid is $130K. granted the model S of today is no doubt RADICALLY different than the car they made a decade ago even if it looks similar from the exterior in particular. but they can CERTAINLY afford to have a detailed check list and measuring system during manufacturing, and certainly when the car is supposedly ready to ship to prevent such horrible blunders. it is inexcusable.
my LC500 was also 6 figures. being a lexus, it arrived with ZERO flaws that i could find. that's how you do it.![Thumb Up](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
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also, from the pics, with the upper dash top now aligned even with that door top, the next part down, where the cf would go, doesn't align with that next area down like it did when the top didn't align! not important, but maybe you could share a pic of how it looks on the passenger side.
anyway, i hope it gets resolved very quickly and properly.
no, respectfully you have that all wrong. tesla never had any interest in selling through traditional dealerships, so they wanted to open their own stores and sell direct. however, dealers are very powerful in most states and they've influenced laws to be in place that prevent car manufacturers from selling 'direct' to consumers, either with or without company owned stores. tesla proceeded with their plan nationwide, but in some states like texas, the dealers prevailed and texas cannot sell cars there, but consumers can still buy online and go pick up the car in a neighboring state. kind of ironic that tesla moved hq to texas.
nevertheless, the S has been around a decade and this plaid is $130K. granted the model S of today is no doubt RADICALLY different than the car they made a decade ago even if it looks similar from the exterior in particular. but they can CERTAINLY afford to have a detailed check list and measuring system during manufacturing, and certainly when the car is supposedly ready to ship to prevent such horrible blunders. it is inexcusable.
my LC500 was also 6 figures. being a lexus, it arrived with ZERO flaws that i could find. that's how you do it.
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You consider yourself a customer when you go to a doctor? This is the dumbest comparison I've seen maybe ever.
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nevertheless, the S has been around a decade and this plaid is $130K. granted the model S of today is no doubt RADICALLY different than the car they made a decade ago even if it looks similar from the exterior in particular. but they can CERTAINLY afford to have a detailed check list and measuring system during manufacturing, and certainly when the car is supposedly ready to ship to prevent such horrible blunders. it is inexcusable.
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This new Tesla S is not the same the original model. Look at some of the items that were cost cut...for instance, height adjustable shoulder belt anchors...and the courtesy door lights on the door. Who know that has be cost cut and lurking under the all the door panels ![Peep](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/peep.gif)
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Well, in a way it is. I know this is off subject, but last year when my 88 year old father was suffering from mini heart attacks that kept putting him back in the hospital, his Cardiologist recommended Angioplasty, which is extremely risky at his age and condition, where he has compromised kidney function. We questioned him, did research and consulted other doctors and thankfully we found another solution that was way less risky. Had we gone forward with his doctors recommendation, he probably would not be here today because the issue had nothing to do with blockage in his arteries
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man... that's bad especially on a car this expensive.
the rattling window and missing trim is bad enough but with the rubber seal missing you'll likely have tons of wind noise too. ![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
also, from the pics, with the upper dash top now aligned even with that door top, the next part down, where the cf would go, doesn't align with that next area down like it did when the top didn't align! not important, but maybe you could share a pic of how it looks on the passenger side.
anyway, i hope it gets resolved very quickly and properly.
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![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
also, from the pics, with the upper dash top now aligned even with that door top, the next part down, where the cf would go, doesn't align with that next area down like it did when the top didn't align! not important, but maybe you could share a pic of how it looks on the passenger side.
anyway, i hope it gets resolved very quickly and properly.
Here is a pic of the passenger side, it looks good and lines up pretty well to me.
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thanks for posting that (and quick) - yes, looks good. hopefully the driver's side will look just the same very soon.
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