Tesla Model S Plaid
#676
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
Musk is a great showman but products are now really lagging and this Model S redesign seems very lazy.
Lucid Air, Mercedes EQS to name two, but in fairness they're not being delivered yet.
I got a good laugh out of this article. Elon statue in Manhattan, we truly live in a clown world.
https://thenextweb.com/news/elon-mus...ing-inequality
https://thenextweb.com/news/elon-mus...ing-inequality
#678
EV ftw!!!
So what does "products are now really lagging" mean if it has nothing to do with sales? Your point of view again?
#679
Lexus Fanatic
You’re 100% right in this. There is no doubt the screens, software as well as the over the air update were influenced by Teslas vision. The auto makers used to make small updates to their screen and tech and now are forced to be more exponential with their updates.
#682
Racer
iTrader: (3)
As to if the legacy makes "need" revolutionary designs, they don't until they do. Take the recent change to the iconic Corvette, which recently underwent one of its most drastic design changes in decades. I'm not saying it was absolutely required, but there is no hard rule for when change (radical or incremental) is necessary. Meanwhile, BMW decided on some radical design changes to their lineup (and we've seen the response to those), while Lexus decided many of the cars in their lineup needed to look more aggressive with massive grilles. I'd consider all of these significant, brand defining, design changes for various reasons.
Tesla fandom is based on changing what we know about driving or what cars can do. If you want that fandom to continue, you need to deliver those radical products.
Model X was great example with falcon doors and really only Tesla could have made that. Same with CyberTruck.
This new Model S is a bean counter design and completely against what Tesla is known for.
Model 3 and Y are both snooze fest.
Model X was great example with falcon doors and really only Tesla could have made that. Same with CyberTruck.
This new Model S is a bean counter design and completely against what Tesla is known for.
Model 3 and Y are both snooze fest.
It's also about timing. Tesla captured mindshare and the industry at a time when it was ripe for (EV) disruption, which will be difficult to replicate, especially from legacy brands.
#683
That’s not the right way of looking at things though.
Other automakers- MB, BMW, Porsche, Ford, GM etc - all have long history and generations of owners. They don’t need revolutionary futuristic designs.
Tesla fandom is based on changing what we know about driving or what cars can do. If you want that fandom to continue, you need to deliver those radical products.
Model X was great example with falcon doors and really only Tesla could have made that. Same with CyberTruck.
This new Model S is a bean counter design and completely against what Tesla is known for.
Model 3 and Y are both snooze fest.
Other automakers- MB, BMW, Porsche, Ford, GM etc - all have long history and generations of owners. They don’t need revolutionary futuristic designs.
Tesla fandom is based on changing what we know about driving or what cars can do. If you want that fandom to continue, you need to deliver those radical products.
Model X was great example with falcon doors and really only Tesla could have made that. Same with CyberTruck.
This new Model S is a bean counter design and completely against what Tesla is known for.
Model 3 and Y are both snooze fest.
They are still ways ahead of everyone, and they keep improving all the time too.
p.s. How the heck fastest 0-100-0 vehicle is not "radical"? If you are looking at Tesla, what the heck else would you look to buy?
#684
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
china has a TON of EV brands and new models seem to be constantly showing up.
This new sedan will have an option for over 600mi. of range and it even has some kind of wireless charging (the CAR! Not phones). And the interior looks NOTHING like a tesla except it's shown in white as seems the trends for EV marketing - the screens look more mercedes EQS and Lucid.
https://insideevs.com/news/503619/zh...edan-wireless/
#685
Lexus Fanatic
That's some amazing tech, getting way more than linear range scaling vs. battery pack size increase.
#686
Racer
iTrader: (3)
This new sedan will have an option for over 600mi. of range and it even has some kind of wireless charging (the CAR! Not phones). And the interior looks NOTHING like a tesla except it's shown in white as seems the trends for EV marketing - the screens look more mercedes EQS and Lucid.
If another EV company manages to rise and take that spot, it's only better for consumers, so any good additions to the EV sphere are certainly welcome.
#687
Lexus Fanatic
Wireless charging is sloooooooow and hugely inefficient. Frankly it's stupid I'm surprised anyone would think it's some sort of advantage. If that car does end up with 620 miles of range then VW, Ford, Lucid etc. have no hope of competing.
#688
The Taycan was supposed to have a 600 mile range...
#689
Lexus Test Driver
NYC just issued warning to limit energy use to avoid blackout. No microwaves, dishwasher, washer/dryer etc.
I can’t wait what will happen when 1 million EVs need to be charged 🤣
https://nypost.com/2021/06/30/bill-d...mid-heat-wave/
I can’t wait what will happen when 1 million EVs need to be charged 🤣
https://nypost.com/2021/06/30/bill-d...mid-heat-wave/
Mayor Bill de Blasio urged New Yorkers to limit their use of electricity Wednesday as the ongoing heat wave led to blackouts across the city.“We need everyone to turn things down, turn things off immediately,” de Blasio said.
Last edited by RNM GS3; 06-30-21 at 04:23 PM.
#690
NYC just issued warning to limit energy use to avoid blackout. No microwaves, dishwasher, washer/dryer etc.
I can’t wait what will happen when 1 million EVs need to be charged 🤣
https://nypost.com/2021/06/30/bill-d...mid-heat-wave/
I can’t wait what will happen when 1 million EVs need to be charged 🤣
https://nypost.com/2021/06/30/bill-d...mid-heat-wave/
But I agree, we have a lot of infrastructure and energy work to do. It's called opportunity.