EV Chat General discussion about electrified Lexus, other EV vehicle manufacturers and BEV, PHEV related industry news.

Tesla Model S Plaid

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-20-21, 04:32 PM
  #766  
EZZ
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
 
EZZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: CA
Posts: 7,460
Received 227 Likes on 170 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
So,what is the 10 second cheetah stance?
Its to lower the front of the car so when the car shifts its weight from front to rear as it accelerates initially, there is slightly more traction to get better times. The Plaid model is severely under tired for a drag launch. Its literally traction limited under 70mph and the tires are slipping like crazy because the power to the wheels overpowers the traction of the tires. Its using street tires vs. a more dedicated track tire. when people start putting better tires on the car, I wouldn't be surprised if it broke into the high 8s range...but then it wouldn't be considered "stock"
Old 07-20-21, 04:37 PM
  #767  
Toys4RJill
Lexus Fanatic
 
Toys4RJill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: ON/NY
Posts: 30,956
Received 64 Likes on 55 Posts
Default

Interesting stuff.
Old 07-20-21, 04:45 PM
  #768  
LeX2K
Lexus Champion
 
LeX2K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Alberta
Posts: 19,901
Received 2,842 Likes on 2,401 Posts
Default

Tesla solved the power curve dropoff (how I don't know exactly) without needing a 2-speed gearbox. Love em or hate em EVs are going to utterly dominate performance cars going forward a gas engine has zero hope of competing with this. Power ramps up and stays there.

Name:  gpHyzIk.jpg
Views: 3
Size:  23.5 KB
Old 07-20-21, 04:51 PM
  #769  
EZZ
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
 
EZZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: CA
Posts: 7,460
Received 227 Likes on 170 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by LeX2K
Tesla solved the power curve dropoff (how I don't know exactly) without needing a 2-speed gearbox. Love em or hate em EVs are going to utterly dominate performance cars going forward a gas engine has zero hope of competing with this. Power ramps up and stays there.

They eliminated the back EMF issue with the new motor and inverter design. In fact, even the new LR Model S has better 60-130mph times than the prior Model S Performance figures. Tesla proved once again that its motor design is years ahead of the competition.
Old 07-20-21, 04:54 PM
  #770  
LeX2K
Lexus Champion
 
LeX2K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Alberta
Posts: 19,901
Received 2,842 Likes on 2,401 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by EZZ
They eliminated the back EMF issue with the new motor and inverter design. In fact, even the new LR Model S has better 60-130mph times than the prior Model S Performance figures. Tesla proved once again that its motor design is years ahead of the competition.
Is the LR S also using the carbon sleeved motor?
Old 07-20-21, 04:59 PM
  #771  
EZZ
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
 
EZZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: CA
Posts: 7,460
Received 227 Likes on 170 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by LeX2K
Is the LR S also using the carbon sleeved motor?
No. The back EMF was mostly solved with the new inverter design. The carbon sleeve really only helps when it gets to much higher speeds above 130mph. I bet an acceleration boost option will be added to the LR in the future so that it helps get back to Model S performance levels. People feel the fist 60mph is really held back by software.
Old 07-23-21, 10:05 AM
  #772  
Hameed
EV ftw!!!

 
Hameed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Lake Ontario
Posts: 8,562
Received 299 Likes on 180 Posts
Default Marques Brownlee has just reviewed his personal Tesla Model S Plaid - Fair/balanced

Very fair and balanced review by Marques Brownlee on his personalTesla Model S Plaid. He's an interface guy, so it's interesting to watch his review of the refreshed S

Old 07-23-21, 10:11 AM
  #773  
bitkahuna
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
 
bitkahuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Present
Posts: 74,728
Received 2,405 Likes on 1,577 Posts
Default

great review by marques brownlee

tl;dr - great car, yoke sucks.

Old 07-23-21, 10:38 AM
  #774  
Hameed
EV ftw!!!

 
Hameed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Lake Ontario
Posts: 8,562
Received 299 Likes on 180 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bitkahuna
great review by marques brownlee

tl;dr - great car, yoke sucks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyKQ7qtTJag
He actually didn't mind the yoke, it's the replacement of stalks with the haptic touch buttons that he said is a bad design move.
Old 07-23-21, 10:39 AM
  #775  
Toys4RJill
Lexus Fanatic
 
Toys4RJill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: ON/NY
Posts: 30,956
Received 64 Likes on 55 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bitkahuna
great review by marques brownlee

tl;dr - great car, yoke sucks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyKQ7qtTJag
I like his reviews.

I really dislike that Tesla took away the height adjustment for the seat belts. And no door lights like the pre refresh has. I guess he wouldn’t have noticed.
Old 07-23-21, 10:56 AM
  #776  
LeX2K
Lexus Champion
 
LeX2K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Alberta
Posts: 19,901
Received 2,842 Likes on 2,401 Posts
Default

He likes the yolk doesn't like the turn signals and horn. Fair points. Not a full review though says that will come later.
Old 07-23-21, 11:08 AM
  #777  
bitkahuna
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
 
bitkahuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Present
Posts: 74,728
Received 2,405 Likes on 1,577 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Hameed
He actually didn't mind the yoke, it's the replacement of stalks with the haptic touch buttons that he said is a bad design move.
Originally Posted by LeX2K
He likes the yolk doesn't like the turn signals and horn. Fair points. Not a full review though says that will come later.
i disagree he "doesn't mind the yoke" and definitely disagree he 'likes the yolk".

whether tesla gave him a break on the car i don't know, but given his massive youtube presence, $150 large with tax etc won't matter to him much. the video is aleady up to 2M views so the car's getting quickly pad for.

Old 07-23-21, 11:09 AM
  #778  
LeX2K
Lexus Champion
 
LeX2K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Alberta
Posts: 19,901
Received 2,842 Likes on 2,401 Posts
Default

Everyone pays the same price for the same Tesla.
Old 07-23-21, 11:16 AM
  #779  
Hameed
EV ftw!!!

 
Hameed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Lake Ontario
Posts: 8,562
Received 299 Likes on 180 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bitkahuna
i disagree he "doesn't mind the yoke" and definitely disagree he 'likes the yolk".
At 12:30 to 12:35 he specifically states the yolk isn't bad.

whether tesla gave him a break on the car i don't know, but given his massive youtube presence, $150 large with tax etc won't matter to him much. the video is aleady up to 2M views so the car's getting quickly pad for.
I don't follow what this has to do with the review.......please elaborate.
Old 07-23-21, 11:33 AM
  #780  
Toys4RJill
Lexus Fanatic
 
Toys4RJill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: ON/NY
Posts: 30,956
Received 64 Likes on 55 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Hameed
At 12:30 to 12:35 he specifically states the yolk isn't bad.
I think he is afraid to say its bad


Quick Reply: Tesla Model S Plaid



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:23 PM.