Tesla Model S Plaid
09-13-21, 02:41 PM
#916
Lexus Champion
When you say the "un-rich" does that include the middle class? If there is even very good to good enthusiasm from the middle class that's huge and would insure EV's have a future.
09-13-21, 03:02 PM
#917
for one thing. new teslas ordered today often won't be delivered for months due to global demand (i assume they ship them to wherever they make the most money or they have a strategic reason). we all know that people in apartments/condos without modern charging outlets can't use ev's unless they want to deal with the hassle and expense of charging stations, so that rules out a huge chunk of the market. and we also know that most people don't see any reason to switch to an EV yet.
Giga Austin (later this year) will be the biggest car plant in the world. It will supply Model 3 and Y for Mid West and East. Giga Berlin (late late 2021 or early 2022) will service Europe.
Austin will build the (butt ugly) Cybertruk.
Shanghai is also designing and will build the "Model 2", which is the $25K Tesla. The new LFP (lithium iron phosphate) battery is now offered in the Model 3 Standard Range Plus, which is cheaper and can charge to 100% with less degredation. Of course this is key to acheiving the price point.
Once production starts to keep up with demand, Fremont will get back on the long-delayed Roadster 2. I think they will initially build the SEMI in Giga Nevada, but that will move to Austin.
Of course this is Elon time... And he's whack, right?
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Last edited by JeffKeryk; 09-13-21 at 03:14 PM.
09-13-21, 03:19 PM
#918
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
The LFP can last a million miles with something like a 5000 charge cycle. It's also much less combustible to boot. Issue is that the 55kwh pack is roughy 200 lbs heavier and not as high output so you aren't going to be putting it in the more powerful models. The new standard range plus has this option and that is the model I would get if I were buying that model vs the NMC batteries. The other disadvantage of the LFP is that it loses more range in the cold...probably like 10% more so again, not right for everyone. But charging to 100% everyday with barely any degradation over many years may be worth the trade offs to many people.
09-13-21, 03:28 PM
#919
The LFP can last a million miles with something like a 5000 charge cycle. It's also much less combustible to boot. Issue is that the 55kwh pack is roughy 200 lbs heavier and not as high output so you aren't going to be putting it in the more powerful models. The new standard range plus has this option and that is the model I would get if I were buying that model vs the NMC batteries. The other disadvantage of the LFP is that it loses more range in the cold...probably like 10% more so again, not right for everyone. But charging to 100% everyday with barely any degradation over many years may be worth the trade offs to many people.
It seems as though you have a sound understanding of the LFP battery. I can see Tesla recycled ones used for home solar storage and other purposes because of their properties.
09-13-21, 05:54 PM
#920
EV ftw!!!
Face it, you're stuck in the past. 🙂 BEV's have already taken off. That's how it starts - a small percentage that you always mention and it will only go up, incentives or not.
09-13-21, 06:58 PM
#921
Lexus Fanatic
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09-13-21, 07:22 PM
#922
Lexus Fanatic
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LexsCTJill - i just took a look...
last year in the u.s., tesla came pretty close to VW sales, tesla outsold Mazda, Lexus, and more than doubled Cadillac's. Pretty impressive!
last year in the u.s., tesla came pretty close to VW sales, tesla outsold Mazda, Lexus, and more than doubled Cadillac's. Pretty impressive!
09-13-21, 07:23 PM
#923
Lexus Fanatic
Yeah..Tesla does do ok with their sales. But subtract Tesla and what is the percentage of EV sales? Let’s discuss again,…maybe when EV sales are at 5%in like 2028
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 09-13-21 at 07:28 PM.
09-13-21, 07:25 PM
#924
09-13-21, 07:27 PM
#925
09-13-21, 07:49 PM
#926
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by F1Driver
No, it's still slower than some ICE sedans (e.g. GT63S, Panamera Turbo, etc.) with much less horsepower.
09-13-21, 08:01 PM
#927
Lexus Test Driver
09-13-21, 09:06 PM
#928
EV ftw!!!
09-14-21, 02:34 PM
#929
09-14-21, 02:35 PM
#930