Tesla Model Y
#76
With a 250 mile range EV, it's 5 hours. No idea what range BEV you're referring to. And in those 5 hours, unless you're a robot that does not need to use the washroom, coffee and eat (forget about even stretching your legs) that 5 hours drops to half.
Once you've made up your mind it's not going to work for you, it doesn't really matter what anyone says to reason with you, it still won't make a lot sense for a lot of people, and that's perfectly fine too.
Once you've made up your mind it's not going to work for you, it doesn't really matter what anyone says to reason with you, it still won't make a lot sense for a lot of people, and that's perfectly fine too.
you're right, nothing you can say will convince me that the EV trip is convenient.
EVs are great for day trips, commuting, etc. they (CURRENTLY) suck for long distance trips. Sure there's lots of videos and anecdotes of enthusiastic (mostly young people who don't have to stop often to pee, lol) people embarking on long distance ev adventures and embracing the novelty of it and the adventure of monitoring the charge status, navigating to charge stations, etc., but i would find none of that appealing when i'm just trying to travel a long distance.
I've no doubt that situation will improve in coming years but it's not good today.
#77
not sure where rogerh00 is in FL (big, long state), but google maps says miami to nyc is an 18hr drive. unless you have 2 drivers, that's 3 days of driving for most people, maybe stops in georgia and virginia for example. unless the hotel has charging then 5 hours is added onto the driving for charging, but going with your point, let's say that one can align half that charging time with stops needed anyway, but it's still an additional 2.5 hours charging and waiting around. At 70mph that's 175mi. of driving time wasted. If those 2.5 add-on hours represented two charging stops, a gas car would accomplish same in 10 minutes.
you're right, nothing you can say will convince me that the EV trip is convenient.
EVs are great for day trips, commuting, etc. they (CURRENTLY) suck for long distance trips. Sure there's lots of videos and anecdotes of enthusiastic (mostly young people who don't have to stop often to pee, lol) people embarking on long distance ev adventures and embracing the novelty of it and the adventure of monitoring the charge status, navigating to charge stations, etc., but i would find none of that appealing when i'm just trying to travel a long distance.
I've no doubt that situation will improve in coming years but it's not good today.
you're right, nothing you can say will convince me that the EV trip is convenient.
EVs are great for day trips, commuting, etc. they (CURRENTLY) suck for long distance trips. Sure there's lots of videos and anecdotes of enthusiastic (mostly young people who don't have to stop often to pee, lol) people embarking on long distance ev adventures and embracing the novelty of it and the adventure of monitoring the charge status, navigating to charge stations, etc., but i would find none of that appealing when i'm just trying to travel a long distance.
I've no doubt that situation will improve in coming years but it's not good today.
#78
Tesla actually owns our solar panels now after SolarCity bought out our original provider, Paramount Solar. I think Elon was on the board of directors for SolarCity before Tesla acquired it.
Last edited by FatherTo1; 07-03-21 at 03:05 PM.
#79
I agree. I used to desire quality leather and appreciated what the LS 460 offered, but I’m over the maintenance and perceive it differently now. The whole dead animal skin look has lost its appeal and I don’t mind synthetic or vegan “leather” at all and actually prefer it. I remember being quite impressed with Lexus NuLuxe too and found it supple and very comfortable with great durability.
#80
Originally Posted by FatherTo1
There is also zero out-of-pocket solar like we have. We pay for the power generated from solar, just like you pay for electricity from your utility company. You get the benefit of solar, cheaper rates than utility (and utility company pays you back for surplus that you generate), and absolutely zero upfront costs and the maintenance and any repairs are handled by the solar company. I had the solar inverter replaced twice in seven years, absolutely no cost to us.
Tesla actually owns our solar panels now after SolarCity bought out our original provider, Paramount Solar. I think Elon was on the board of directors for SolarCity before Tesla acquired it.
Tesla actually owns our solar panels now after SolarCity bought out our original provider, Paramount Solar. I think Elon was on the board of directors for SolarCity before Tesla acquired it.
#81
With a 250 mile range EV, it's 5 hours. No idea what range BEV you're referring to. And in those 5 hours, unless you're a robot that does not need to use the washroom, coffee and eat (forget about even stretching your legs) that 5 hours drops to half.
Once you've made up your mind it's not going to work for you, it doesn't really matter what anyone says to reason with you, it still won't make a lot sense for a lot of people, and that's perfectly fine too.
Once you've made up your mind it's not going to work for you, it doesn't really matter what anyone says to reason with you, it still won't make a lot sense for a lot of people, and that's perfectly fine too.
#82
not sure where rogerh00 is in FL (big, long state), but google maps says miami to nyc is an 18hr drive. unless you have 2 drivers, that's 3 days of driving for most people, maybe stops in georgia and virginia for example. unless the hotel has charging then 5 hours is added onto the driving for charging, but going with your point, let's say that one can align half that charging time with stops needed anyway, but it's still an additional 2.5 hours charging and waiting around. At 70mph that's 175mi. of driving time wasted. If those 2.5 add-on hours represented two charging stops, a gas car would accomplish same in 10 minutes.
you're right, nothing you can say will convince me that the EV trip is convenient.
EVs are great for day trips, commuting, etc. they (CURRENTLY) suck for long distance trips. Sure there's lots of videos and anecdotes of enthusiastic (mostly young people who don't have to stop often to pee, lol) people embarking on long distance ev adventures and embracing the novelty of it and the adventure of monitoring the charge status, navigating to charge stations, etc., but i would find none of that appealing when i'm just trying to travel a long distance.
I've no doubt that situation will improve in coming years but it's not good today.
you're right, nothing you can say will convince me that the EV trip is convenient.
EVs are great for day trips, commuting, etc. they (CURRENTLY) suck for long distance trips. Sure there's lots of videos and anecdotes of enthusiastic (mostly young people who don't have to stop often to pee, lol) people embarking on long distance ev adventures and embracing the novelty of it and the adventure of monitoring the charge status, navigating to charge stations, etc., but i would find none of that appealing when i'm just trying to travel a long distance.
I've no doubt that situation will improve in coming years but it's not good today.
Question, How many Tesla owners here is the EV their only vehicle????
#84
I am going to Orlando for vacation after this week and I may try and rent a Tesla from Turo to see if I like it. I’ve only been in a Model S and have never driven an EV before so I think it would be cool but they aren’t cheap to rent for a week so we will see.
#85
Originally Posted by patgilm
I am going to Orlando for vacation after this week and I may try and rent a Tesla from Turo to see if I like it. I’ve only been in a Model S and have never driven an EV before so I think it would be cool but they aren’t cheap to rent for a week so we will see.
If that isn't available, at least get the Model 3 Performance.
#86
Do you live in an apartment/condo? If you do, then it makes sense to not get any EV, much less a low quality, interior that makes one laugh - Tesla.
I have only one car and it's an EV, a Model S and I have a garage with my house that I charge it in.
I have only one car and it's an EV, a Model S and I have a garage with my house that I charge it in.
#87
I just looked up the Canadian spec Y. $69,990. Definitely not a $69k interior I can’t believe full self driving is a $10,000 option.
I agree with this. Battery EVs can’t possibly the only solution.
I agree with this. Battery EVs can’t possibly the only solution.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 07-04-21 at 09:24 AM.
#88
#89
Too bad they didn’t test the current build Model Y. You can tell it’s an older version because it doesn’t have the updated center console.
I recently took delivery of a Model Y performance. Absolutely love it. Ended up giving my 2019 450H F-Sport to my sister.
Looking forward to seeing what EVs Lexus will eventually bring to market.
I recently took delivery of a Model Y performance. Absolutely love it. Ended up giving my 2019 450H F-Sport to my sister.
Looking forward to seeing what EVs Lexus will eventually bring to market.
#90
Especially when it's not full self driving, lol.
It adds highway navigation "self driving"* - meaning it knows where to exit and will do so, parking lot "summon" (which i sure as hell wouldn't trust and given how slow it moves i could walk there and back to the car 3 times), and a few other features.
* - you still have to keep your hands on the wheel anyway.
I don't think it's $10K worth of value and I bet the take rate isn't that high.
It adds highway navigation "self driving"* - meaning it knows where to exit and will do so, parking lot "summon" (which i sure as hell wouldn't trust and given how slow it moves i could walk there and back to the car 3 times), and a few other features.
* - you still have to keep your hands on the wheel anyway.
I don't think it's $10K worth of value and I bet the take rate isn't that high.