Tesla to open up their Supercharger network to other auto makers
07-24-21, 09:19 PM
#91
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Musk changed the world far more with Tesla than his other companies. He proved EVs are a viable alternative to ICE which enabled regulators to take the plunge and drive the transition far more aggressively than anyone should have thought 10 years ago.
At this point, he's synonymous with Tesla and EVs and is the 2nd richest man in the world because of it. You and many others may not like him but his influence to the world is undeniable.
At this point, he's synonymous with Tesla and EVs and is the 2nd richest man in the world because of it. You and many others may not like him but his influence to the world is undeniable.
07-24-21, 09:40 PM
#92
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well i disagree. Not denying tesla is a HUGE HUGE accomplishment. But EVs were coming anyway, tesla was obviously a first mover 
you're in CA and so is Jeff. I think the perceived impact is amplified there because that's where tesla has its biggest footprint. I know I know, but but Norway! Well they basically subsidized them to the point that anyone NOT buying a tesla was stupid.
But musk also proved private space rockets are a viable alternative to nasa and the russians which enabled regulators to take the plunge and let spacex deliver supplies to ISS and eventually people to and from ISS - a MASSIVE MASSIVE accomplishment. Each spacex flight to ISS saves NASA tens of millions of dollars. Spacex also does DoD 'projects' and is delivering StarLink into space (already thousands of satellites). That WILL change the world. VERY few companies can do what Spacex is doing / has done. Boeing is far behind. Blueorigin and Branson's toy plane are not relevant right now (Blueorigin if it gets far enough could do some amazing things). I consider these more game changing than pointless 2s 0-60.
again, not knocking what tesla has accomplished, it's amazing. And back to the thread, it's also amazing they've built a charging network - THAT was not easy either. I honestly don't know how they've afforded that with all the real estate, permitting and legal issues involved.
Yes those things are true, but there's public perception and then there's reality. Yes to the public he's mr tesla.
Never said i didn't like him, he's amazing, and an incredibly hard working genius. And i agree his influence on the world is huge, but not imo primarily because of tesla.
He proved EVs are a viable alternative to ICE which enabled regulators to take the plunge and drive the transition far more aggressively than anyone should have thought 10 years ago.
But musk also proved private space rockets are a viable alternative to nasa and the russians which enabled regulators to take the plunge and let spacex deliver supplies to ISS and eventually people to and from ISS - a MASSIVE MASSIVE accomplishment. Each spacex flight to ISS saves NASA tens of millions of dollars. Spacex also does DoD 'projects' and is delivering StarLink into space (already thousands of satellites). That WILL change the world. VERY few companies can do what Spacex is doing / has done. Boeing is far behind. Blueorigin and Branson's toy plane are not relevant right now (Blueorigin if it gets far enough could do some amazing things). I consider these more game changing than pointless 2s 0-60.
again, not knocking what tesla has accomplished, it's amazing. And back to the thread, it's also amazing they've built a charging network - THAT was not easy either. I honestly don't know how they've afforded that with all the real estate, permitting and legal issues involved.
At this point, he's synonymous with Tesla and EVs and is the 2nd richest man in the world because of it.
You and many others may not like him but his influence to the world is undeniable.
07-24-21, 09:45 PM
#93
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
well i disagree. Not denying tesla is a HUGE HUGE accomplishment. But EVs were coming anyway, tesla was obviously a first mover you're in CA and so is Jeff. I think the perceived impact is amplified there because that's where tesla has its biggest footprint. I know I know, but but Norway! Well they basically subsidized them to the point that anyone NOT buying a tesla was stupid.
But musk also proved private space rockets are a viable alternative to nasa and the russians which enabled regulators to take the plunge and let spacex deliver supplies to ISS and eventually people to and from ISS - a MASSIVE MASSIVE accomplishment. Each spacex flight to ISS saves NASA tens of millions of dollars. Spacex also does DoD 'projects' and is delivering StarLink into space (already thousands of satellites). That WILL change the world. VERY few companies can do what Spacex is doing / has done. Boeing is far behind. Blueorigin and Branson's toy plane are not relevant right now (Blueorigin if it gets far enough could do some amazing things). I consider these more game changing than pointless 2s 0-60.
again, not knocking what tesla has accomplished, it's amazing. And back to the thread, it's also amazing they've built a charging network - THAT was not easy either. I honestly don't know how they've afforded that with all the real estate, permitting and legal issues involved.Yes those things are true, but there's public perception and then there's reality. Yes to the public he's mr tesla.Never said i didn't like him, he's amazing, and an incredibly hard working genius. And i agree his influence on the world is huge, but not imo primarily because of tesla.
you're in CA and so is Jeff. I think the perceived impact is amplified there because that's where tesla has its biggest footprint. I know I know, but but Norway! Well they basically subsidized them to the point that anyone NOT buying a tesla was stupid.But musk also proved private space rockets are a viable alternative to nasa and the russians which enabled regulators to take the plunge and let spacex deliver supplies to ISS and eventually people to and from ISS - a MASSIVE MASSIVE accomplishment. Each spacex flight to ISS saves NASA tens of millions of dollars. Spacex also does DoD 'projects' and is delivering StarLink into space (already thousands of satellites). That WILL change the world. VERY few companies can do what Spacex is doing / has done. Boeing is far behind. Blueorigin and Branson's toy plane are not relevant right now (Blueorigin if it gets far enough could do some amazing things). I consider these more game changing than pointless 2s 0-60.
again, not knocking what tesla has accomplished, it's amazing. And back to the thread, it's also amazing they've built a charging network - THAT was not easy either. I honestly don't know how they've afforded that with all the real estate, permitting and legal issues involved.Yes those things are true, but there's public perception and then there's reality. Yes to the public he's mr tesla.Never said i didn't like him, he's amazing, and an incredibly hard working genius. And i agree his influence on the world is huge, but not imo primarily because of tesla.
07-24-21, 10:36 PM
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07-24-21, 10:39 PM
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07-24-21, 11:13 PM
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Although a smaller vehicle, the 'mini-ev' in china now outsells model 3 significantly in china. It's made by a joint venture with GM there.
... the company sold 1,048 of these vehicles in June when it launched.
Then things really started moving, with 7,348 units in July, 9,510 in August, 14,495 in September, 20,631 in October, 33,094 in November, and 35,388 in December! All this while most countries are experiencing a huge decrease in sales volumes due to the ongoing health crisis. In the grand scheme of things, this means the Hongguang Mini EV has already overtaken the TeslaModel 3 as the best-selling EV on the Chinese market.
Full article here:
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/g...na-154053.html
Then things really started moving, with 7,348 units in July, 9,510 in August, 14,495 in September, 20,631 in October, 33,094 in November, and 35,388 in December! All this while most countries are experiencing a huge decrease in sales volumes due to the ongoing health crisis. In the grand scheme of things, this means the Hongguang Mini EV has already overtaken the TeslaModel 3 as the best-selling EV on the Chinese market.
Full article here:
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/g...na-154053.html
07-25-21, 07:49 AM
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07-25-21, 07:13 PM
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as for whether tesla should do that, if they want a bigger marketshare they're going to have to produce a car cheaper than a 3 and obviously there's lots of rumors about a coming "2". To compete with the mini they'll need a "0.25"
07-25-21, 07:21 PM
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07-25-21, 08:20 PM
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07-25-21, 08:24 PM
#101
So we are seriously discussing EVs and Supercharges, meanwhile Dell can't sell powerful gaming computers in five states due to power consumption regulations.
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/gami...nware-desktops
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/gami...nware-desktops
This product cannot be shipped to the states of California, Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Vermont or Washington due to power consumption regulations adopted by those states. Any orders placed that are bound for those states will be canceled.
07-25-21, 09:23 PM
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This thread is repeatedly veering towards the political. Knock that off and do not continue please, those posting know that is not allowed on our community.
07-28-21, 11:13 AM
#103
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There are more than 2,000 Tesla compatible charging stations in New York city, including J-1772, Level 2 stations. (Google)
07-29-21, 09:21 AM
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07-29-21, 09:49 AM
#105
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LI has some Tesla stations in malls but no dedicated Tesla locations.