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Old 11-22-20 | 11:25 AM
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What's more insane is this driver not only survived but was able to flee. I hear this is actually more common with DUI drivers which this one was, something about them being more relaxed. At least they caught up to him and hopefully they'll throw the book at him.
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None of this, IMO, is really surprising. Although DUI incidents can happen with any vehicle, ICE or BEV, if you remember, when I did my Model 3 test-drive, I said back then that the torque-level in this car is so high that it could be dangerous in the hands of careless, immature, unskilled, or aggressive drivers. That is obviously even more so if alcohol or drugs are involved.

For those of you who have not sampled a Model 3, you have to understand just how powerful this machine is, I grew up in the classic Age of American Muscle-Cars, with 400-500 HP and torque-levels to match. Trust me, the Model 3, even in non-performance versions, on a full-battery charge where all the engine's power can be used, will handily dust-off the fastest of those late-60s-specials, the way they came stock from the factory.

Of course, not every Model 3 driver is careless or dangerous. That vehicle sells like hotcakes in my area, but you don't hear of a particularly high accident rate with them. Part of that could (?) be that Teslas, even with their power and torque, appeal to a lot of environmentalists who are not alcoholics or aggressive-drivers by nature.

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Old 11-22-20 | 03:42 PM
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That is one safe car. But hey the real story is some battery cells are scattered about, oh the humanity.
Old 11-22-20 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Lexus2000
That is one safe car. But hey the real story is some battery cells are scattered about, oh the humanity.
lol, figures you'd come in with only something positive to say about the tesla.

If you read the whole article (and some of the comments) and see the pics it just seems profoundly LUCKY that the driver survived, most likely hitting the pole with the side or rear of the car which lead to spinning and hitting other things but FORTUNATELY nothing head on or drivers side and it seems the car didn't roll either, but the car was UTTERLY DESTROYED. Here's a couple of pics:




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Old 11-22-20 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by EZZ
You really don't see that with EVs. It's a different problem.
Yeah...it’s a different problem...they just blow up while parked.....or they become a flying projectile that lights bedrooms on fire.


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Old 11-22-20 | 08:03 PM
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Some of you are unbelievably predictable haha.
Old 11-22-20 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by EZZ
When an ICE hits something at 100mph, it just blows up. You really don't see that with EVs. It's a different problem.
plenty of high speed crashes that didnt end up in a fiery explosion. That new supra crash is a recent one. Its not like the movies
Old 11-22-20 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
plenty of high speed crashes that didnt end up in a fiery explosion. That new supra crash is a recent one. Its not like the movies
Sure but not all high speed EV crashes end up with batteries flying everywhere. EVs don't blow up like an ICE can. They just spread a slow fire everywhere
Old 11-22-20 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Lexus2000
That is one safe car. But hey the real story is some battery cells are scattered about, oh the humanity.
Not sure if that's meant to be funny-sarcastic. Just mentioning that the venting gasses from a lithium ion fire are dangerous if exposed and inhaled. The chemical burn is equally damaging to flesh. All these battery cells in a chain reaction fire would be drastically worse. Phosphoryl chloride and Hydrofluoric Acid are released when on fire.

The CDC page on Hydrogen fluoride/Hydrofluoric Acid:

https://emergency.cdc.gov/agent/hydr...sics/facts.asp

Swallowing only a small amount of highly concentrated hydrogen fluoride will affect major internal organs and may be fatal.

Hydrogen fluoride gas, even at low levels, can irritate the eyes, nose, and respiratory tract. Breathing in hydrogen fluoride at high levels or in combination with skin contact can cause death from an irregular heartbeat or from fluid buildup in the lungs.

Even small splashes of high-concentration hydrogen fluoride products on the skin can be fatal. Skin contact with hydrogen fluoride may not cause immediate pain or visible skin damage(signs of exposure).

Often, patients exposed to low concentrations of hydrogen fluoride on the skin do not show effects or experience pain immediately. And, severe pain at the exposure site may be the only symptom for several hours. Visible damage may not appear until 12 to 24 hours after the exposure.
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That looks like a great opportunity to pick up a few free battery cells those would work great in a flashlight.
Old 11-23-20 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by EZZ
When an ICE hits something at 100mph, it just blows up. You really don't see that with EVs. It's a different problem.
What? What do you mean blows up exactly? Hitting a static object at that speed will fail nearly anything short of race cars but ICEs don't blow up into fireballs

Kinda makes one wonder what a shot would do to a EV battery pack, doesn't do much with a gas tank but hitting batteries might
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Originally Posted by Striker223
What? What do you mean blows up exactly? Hitting a static object at that speed will fail nearly anything short of race cars but ICEs don't blow up into fireballs

Kinda makes one wonder what a shot would do to a EV battery pack, doesn't do much with a gas tank but hitting batteries might
If you shoot a battery, it will catch on fire but it's a much slower burn vs ICE. Trouble is, it's really hard to put out by conventional means like water.

If any any vehicle hits a static object at 100mph, there is a fair probability that something will catch on fire
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Originally Posted by EZZ
If you shoot a battery, it will catch on fire but it's a much slower burn vs ICE. Trouble is, it's really hard to put out by conventional means like water.

If any any vehicle hits a static object at 100mph, there is a fair probability that something will catch on fire
I have literally never seen it on any car newer than 1990 unless it's hit directly sideways and it's a 18wtruck that gets its tanks pierced or similar. There are crazy standards in place to prevent that from happening in passenger cars and light trucks to the tune of people rolling cars off mountains and them turning into twisted scrap with no fire
Old 11-23-20 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
I have literally never seen it on any car newer than 1990 unless it's hit directly sideways and it's a 18wtruck that gets its tanks pierced or similar. There are crazy standards in place to prevent that from happening in passenger cars and light trucks to the tune of people rolling cars off mountains and them turning into twisted scrap with no fire
True but it's not like EVs that crash catch on fire all the time. You see all those crazy autopilot crashes on YouTube and you don't see them spontaneously combust either.

I'm just saying anything that goes that speed and hits something has a chance to catch on fire.

It's alike many things, how you build and design the battery system. Seems Tesla has it right especially in the 3 and Y but seems GM is having issues per the recall
Old 11-23-20 | 09:27 AM
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They all do. Including Tesla.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/10/succe...res/index.html

Tesla has their battery fire issues.https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cnbc...ty-agency.html

https://abc7news.com/tesla-electric-...factory/21997/

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