View Poll Results: Tesla Model 3 Build Defects - Deal Breaker?
Yes
31
65.96%
No
11
23.40%
Maybe
5
10.64%
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Tesla Model 3 (merged megathread)
01-19-22 | 02:22 PM
#781
Lexus Test Driver
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 5,145
Likes: 252
From: Long Island
Really? You think this owner, with 34 subscribers to her channel, and only one video uploaded to her account, faked the video for "youtube clicks"?
I took a quick look, and it seems that you need at least 1000 subscribers and 4000 public watch hours to begin monetizing your videos. She has 34 subs and less than 200 public watch hours (71000 views x 10 seconds).
I took a quick look, and it seems that you need at least 1000 subscribers and 4000 public watch hours to begin monetizing your videos. She has 34 subs and less than 200 public watch hours (71000 views x 10 seconds).
and i would know, i used to make money off my youtube channel, but not for a few years now since google updated their terms... like you said one needs to reach a certain amount of consistent viewing hours to even be eligible for monetization, even my channel with 2700 subs no longer makes the cut (i also hardly upload videos)
even still you need to reach a minimum threshold of $100 before google will even send a check, i have like $52 in my adsense account i'll likely never see lol... oh well it was cool while it lasted
01-19-22 | 02:30 PM
#782
Lexus Fanatic
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 20,850
Likes: 3,106
From: Alberta
Because the piston over extends falls out of the caliper and all the brake fluid leaks out I've seen this happen. May not be the case on the Tesla not sure.
01-19-22 | 03:27 PM
#783
Lexus Champion
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 11,819
Likes: 1,255
From: Ohio
01-22-22 | 12:21 PM
#785
Advanced
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 583
Likes: 22
From: Indiana
The noise can clearly be heard in the video. Car stops just fine in the video (as would most cars with one inside brake pad missing would). Why would you have no brakes at all with one brake pad missing?
It seems that you also think this whole thing might be faked. How do you explain away the fact that the Tesla rep she spoke to said that the brake noise was "normal"? Nobody would ever think that noise was normal, let alone someone who works in the auto service industry. Do you also think that the conversation with the Tesla rep was faked? If so, wouldn't the named Tesla store or Tesla themselves comment on the faked conversation after a few days this story making its rounds on the internet?
Personally, at this point in time, I think the story is legitimate. Sure it could have been faked, but IMO there isn't enough evidence to prove that (at least not yet). ***** happens on the assembly line, to all manufacturers. Tesla just needs to fix it and move on. Like the story of the roofs flying off, people will forget, Tesla will (hopefully) implement or reinforce their existing QA process, and people will keep buying them as demand increases.
It seems that you also think this whole thing might be faked. How do you explain away the fact that the Tesla rep she spoke to said that the brake noise was "normal"? Nobody would ever think that noise was normal, let alone someone who works in the auto service industry. Do you also think that the conversation with the Tesla rep was faked? If so, wouldn't the named Tesla store or Tesla themselves comment on the faked conversation after a few days this story making its rounds on the internet?
Personally, at this point in time, I think the story is legitimate. Sure it could have been faked, but IMO there isn't enough evidence to prove that (at least not yet). ***** happens on the assembly line, to all manufacturers. Tesla just needs to fix it and move on. Like the story of the roofs flying off, people will forget, Tesla will (hopefully) implement or reinforce their existing QA process, and people will keep buying them as demand increases.
01-22-22 | 10:18 PM
#786
Pole Position
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 2,624
Likes: 498
From: CA
How do we know anything, really?
Because there is a ton of misinformation and disinformation on the internet, it's up to all of us to use our reasoning skills to glean truth from what we read. This Tesla mishap seems probable to me, especially after it was reported on by a second source--a neighbor. Could it also be confirmation bias...we find it believable because of Tesla's lack-of-quality reputation? Possibly, but even if it isn't true, Tesla needs to work on quality control if they want to steal customers away from Toyota/Lexus.
Because there is a ton of misinformation and disinformation on the internet, it's up to all of us to use our reasoning skills to glean truth from what we read. This Tesla mishap seems probable to me, especially after it was reported on by a second source--a neighbor. Could it also be confirmation bias...we find it believable because of Tesla's lack-of-quality reputation? Possibly, but even if it isn't true, Tesla needs to work on quality control if they want to steal customers away from Toyota/Lexus.
01-23-22 | 08:00 AM
#787
Lexus Fanatic
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 31,672
Likes: 73
From: ON/NY
01-23-22 | 10:32 AM
#788
Racer
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,970
Likes: 564
From: CA
On the other hand, Musk has changed the world; every car company is chasing him and is terrified of him. So there's that...
Ultimately, Tesla cars are #1 in customer satisfaction, warts and all. There's a reason for it.
01-23-22 | 01:06 PM
#789
Lexus Fanatic
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 31,672
Likes: 73
From: ON/NY
Having #1 score for satisfaction, yet landing #27 for reliability is definitely interesting. I doubt the satisfaction is as high as number #1 if the score for reliability is so low. Numbers and data can be very misleading as it all comes down to interpretation
01-25-22 | 02:07 PM
#790
i did learn something: it takes a lot of dedication to make money on youtube.
01-25-22 | 04:32 PM
#791
Racer
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,970
Likes: 564
From: CA
I agree 100% with your "interpretation" point. What is reliability? CR puts things like panel gaps and paint scratches upon delivery as reliability. I call that quality control. To me, reliability speaks to the vehicle operating as expected, on a daily basis. Teslas are very reliable, warts and all.
Teslas rarely break down due to their excellent (and relaible) electric drivetrain. Far fewer parts than a traditional ICE vehicle.
01-25-22 | 04:40 PM
#792
Lexus Fanatic
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 31,672
Likes: 73
From: ON/NY
Yep, opposite ends of the spectrum.
I agree 100% with your "interpretation" point. What is reliability? CR puts things like panel gaps and paint scratches upon delivery as reliability. I call that quality control. To me, reliability speaks to the vehicle operating as expected, on a daily basis. Teslas are very reliable, warts and all.
Teslas rarely break down due to their excellent (and relaible) electric drivetrain. Far fewer parts than a traditional ICE vehicle.
I agree 100% with your "interpretation" point. What is reliability? CR puts things like panel gaps and paint scratches upon delivery as reliability. I call that quality control. To me, reliability speaks to the vehicle operating as expected, on a daily basis. Teslas are very reliable, warts and all.
Teslas rarely break down due to their excellent (and relaible) electric drivetrain. Far fewer parts than a traditional ICE vehicle.
But satisfaction is very good 👍
01-25-22 | 04:44 PM
#793
Lexus Test Driver
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 7,460
Likes: 228
From: CA
Whats Model 3 reliability. Its probably more indicative as Model S went to that motor in 2019. They went away from their first gen motors around that time. There are many high mileage Model 3s now on the forums and they haven't had any motor issues. There have been motor failures of course but it tends to happen in the first 10k miles.
01-25-22 | 04:56 PM
#794
Lexus Fanatic
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 31,672
Likes: 73
From: ON/NY
Whats Model 3 reliability. Its probably more indicative as Model S went to that motor in 2019. They went away from their first gen motors around that time. There are many high mileage Model 3s now on the forums and they haven't had any motor issues. There have been motor failures of course but it tends to happen in the first 10k miles.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 01-25-22 at 05:12 PM.
01-25-22 | 05:13 PM
#795
Lexus Fanatic
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 91,601
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From: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
I can't totally agree here. Though there are obviously some exceptions (and some real bozos on youtube), often, the blog and Youtube reviews are better and more accurate than the ones given to us by the actual card-carrying journalists. That's because the journalists are not always free to write the truth or what their true opinions are....they have to answer to editors and/or their bosses at the publications.