Federal Money for New EV Charging Stations on the way to becoming law.
08-12-21, 08:13 AM
#16
But the day is coming.There is already a pilot program for testing feasibility of a mileage based tax in the infrastructure bill. The article misconstrues it a little, there's no mandate that a device would need to be installed in the car if such a program was expanded nationally. The miles just need to be tracked in some way. You could argue it's the fairest solution, but I don't think we're there from a data collection perspective.
08-12-21, 08:40 AM
#17
Intermediate
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfri...e-tax-program/
There is already a pilot program for testing feasibility of a mileage based tax in the infrastructure bill. The article misconstrues it a little, there's no mandate that a device would need to be installed in the car if such a program was expanded nationally. The miles just need to be tracked in some way. You could argue it's the fairest solution, but I don't think we're there from a data collection perspective.
That is the easiest way out. PA has the highest gas tax at 58.6 cents a gallon, which comes out to $293 for a 30 mpg car going 15k miles. Adding a couple hundred at registration is definitely one way to even it out. Obviously it's a step in the wrong direction in terms of charging for actual use of the road though.
There is already a pilot program for testing feasibility of a mileage based tax in the infrastructure bill. The article misconstrues it a little, there's no mandate that a device would need to be installed in the car if such a program was expanded nationally. The miles just need to be tracked in some way. You could argue it's the fairest solution, but I don't think we're there from a data collection perspective.
That is the easiest way out. PA has the highest gas tax at 58.6 cents a gallon, which comes out to $293 for a 30 mpg car going 15k miles. Adding a couple hundred at registration is definitely one way to even it out. Obviously it's a step in the wrong direction in terms of charging for actual use of the road though.
08-12-21, 01:36 PM
#18
Lexus Fanatic
Weight as well as battery disposal should be taking into account.
08-12-21, 01:46 PM
#19
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at the same time the WH is BEGGING OPEC to INCREASE oil production. 
and the govt spending money (that isn't theirs) wisely? about as wisely as teenagers drink 'free' alcohol.
and the govt spending money (that isn't theirs) wisely? about as wisely as teenagers drink 'free' alcohol.
08-12-21, 05:02 PM
#20
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
Never mind alcohol. In my state, they can even toke legally now.
This WH has been more on the side of EVs than oil and gas production. I'm not necessarily doubing your word, but I'd have to see the details of the request to totally believe it.
08-12-21, 05:22 PM
#21
If they phase out the credits for higher income earners, then I'm out. That should be proof enough for anybody that the entire "global warming is destroying the world and we have to act right now" dialogue is a complete lie.
08-12-21, 06:53 PM
#23
Because the established manufacturers want to build and manufacture cars. They don’t want to build the chargers. Manufacturing cars is what they are good at. (I think) Toyota is on pace for a $37 billion dollar worldwide profit for the year, building out charging stations is not in their best interest
Why should the taxpayers subsidize other car companies?
"building out charging stations is not in their best interest" Without charging stations, how will owners charge their cars out on the road?
08-12-21, 07:09 PM
#24
Pole Position
08-13-21, 03:43 AM
#25
Another sign this is about money and not about a real disaster. Telsa is an American company that is in the best position to effect change right now. Unbelievable that they were left out.
08-13-21, 08:59 AM
#26
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the title is about the govt spending money and my comment was related saying government spending is rarely ever 'responsiible', and i have no doubt this ev 'boondoggle' will give contracts to friends, lobbyists, influencers, and politicians who have interests in the contracts, regardless of whether chargers are needed wherever they're built.
08-13-21, 09:27 AM
#27
Lexus Champion
Does the gubbermint ever spend money responsibly? No need to answer that.
08-13-21, 10:30 AM
#28
GM said they were investing in a an Electric future but not in a charging network. They would leave that to private industry and others. Guess who the others are?
The American payer!
The American payer!
08-13-21, 11:04 AM
#30
Lexus Fanatic
Why? Because if you want it to work....there needs to be push to make it work. The natural market in the United States is working at the moment and EV adoption will never take off completely without a taxpayers push....Sadly, the United States is really behind the rest of the world when it comes to this stuff...and if there is no push (like all other countries have done) then the United States will sadly be left far behind the rest of the world.
If I am correct...Tesla received a 1/2 billion taxpayer loan by the government a decade or more ago (was paid back)
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 08-13-21 at 11:18 AM.