Tesla is 'irresponsible' for touting 'Full Self-Driving' features, NTSB says
09-21-21, 06:30 PM
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09-21-21, 06:42 PM
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09-21-21, 07:32 PM
#81
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Funny how you use the abbreviation FSD, which stands for Full Self Driving so easily and just a few hours ago you said Tesla never called the feature that. You’re a trip.
09-21-21, 08:06 PM
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09-21-21, 08:26 PM
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Time for you guys to take the pointless back and forth to pm
09-22-21, 06:56 AM
#84
The tech itself is not the topic of the thread. Only the name and what it implies as a result, is.
Similar case, on a much smaller scale: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...-dry-1.5782817
Tesla just needs to drop the name Full Self Driving in favour of something more accurate. Call it Co-Pilot or something. As long as it doesn't imply that the car can drive itself, Tesla as a whole will be all the better for it. Plus it's one less (perfectly valid) criticism that others can make.
09-22-21, 07:04 AM
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Tesla just needs to drop the name Full Self Driving in favour of something more accurate. Call it Co-Pilot or something. As long as it doesn't imply that the car can drive itself, Tesla as a whole will be all the better for it. Plus it's one less (perfectly valid) criticism that others can make.
09-22-21, 07:45 AM
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that would fit with the cult of personality. 
yup, the HEADING "Full Self-Driving Capability" (despite the 'fine print') is misleading and irresponsible. it clearly implies that if you spend the ten large you get this CAPABILITY. maybe they should have called it "Half Self-Driving Capability"
what's going is outrageous, misleading, and irresponsible claims by a manufacturer leading to overconfidence and irresponsibility by some owners. are teslas 'safe'? sure! that's not the issue. and yes, even if tesla changes the name, they're still going to be under scrutiny because exaggerating claims have long term consequences on perception even when forced to retract them. i get WHY tesla made these bold irresponsible claims, to increase the perception that tesla is so far ahead of everyone else (they're not that far ahead), and to boost the share price and interest/demand in the cars themselves of course.
i think teslas are awesome and an awesome addition to the car market, but they shouldn't have done this. it wasn't even necessary.
elon is head engineer, he is the PR department and he's probably the head lawyer too. he became a full self-driving lawyer by paying $10K to get some podcasts.
yup, the HEADING "Full Self-Driving Capability" (despite the 'fine print') is misleading and irresponsible. it clearly implies that if you spend the ten large you get this CAPABILITY. maybe they should have called it "Half Self-Driving Capability"
Riddle me this, do you actually think a name change will stop Tesla being under extreme scrutiny? Look at the crash that involved "no one driving". Guess what actually happened, the people in that car were extremely drunk (verified). FSD was not enabled. They crashed into a tree and instantly every story out there was FSD killed two people. The first responders were CERTAIN no one was driving. The fire burned for hours before it could be put out. Oh, no that didn't happen.
So what is exactly going on here?
Yes Tesla should change the name just to get that monkey off their back but it will do little to stop the extreme scrutiny.
So what is exactly going on here?
Yes Tesla should change the name just to get that monkey off their back but it will do little to stop the extreme scrutiny.
i think teslas are awesome and an awesome addition to the car market, but they shouldn't have done this. it wasn't even necessary.
he became a full self-driving lawyer by paying $10K to get some podcasts.
09-22-21, 01:56 PM
#87
I don't like the name Autopilot or Full Self Driving. And we have a 2018 Model 3 with EAP.
Having said this, the idea that people use tools as dangerous as cars in an irresponsible manner speaks as much to them as it does the name FSD.
More so, in my opinion. Driving is serious business.
Would you give a kid a .45 and not teach him how to use it?
Having said this, the idea that people use tools as dangerous as cars in an irresponsible manner speaks as much to them as it does the name FSD.
More so, in my opinion. Driving is serious business.
Would you give a kid a .45 and not teach him how to use it?
09-22-21, 01:59 PM
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Gun manufacturers don’t allude to a parent being able to do that.
09-22-21, 02:18 PM
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09-22-21, 02:24 PM
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Imagine if the gun was called a “Kids Play Gun”