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Old 02-09-22 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
​​​​​​ Thankfully he wasn't modded or I would have been at the losing end
Maybe, if you have the jump a .5 sec or worse reaction time on the other drivers end means he needs to be at least .5 sec faster to a given speed to ever catch you unless his car has massive top end.

For example, you can have a guy in a 580/680 HP/TQ@1200-4500rpm car who has one hand in the wheel relaxing at a light and the guy next to him in a 6.4 hemi who is READY. The light goes green and you react to his launch it can be a very real problem catching him under 80mph. This is despite his car having no chance normally to 60 or 120, ask me how I know.....I've been on both sides of this depending on the car I'm driving. I can "beat" cars I shouldn't in my 460 because it's quiet and before most people realize I'm challenging them I'm already 20-30mph over them. In my A8 I've lost to cars that should have no chance since I wasn't aware someone was going to go for it when I was driving relaxed.

In your case you likely still would kill a slowly reacting driver or someone who isn't constantly hunting in his mirrors for "challengers". The .5 sec gap would not be enough unless you both are willing to exceed 80 to about the 130 range where the other car would take you when you are going about 95-110. It all depends on what is going on in terms of who gets the hit.
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Did you have to use launch control to get that time? The EVs are just mash and go to get those times easily.
The times I posted are with launch control but it’s not that hard to use launch control. Slide a lever over and hit a button and then stand on the brake, floor the gas and let off the brake. EV is much easier to launch and get consistent times.

My stage 2 tune and catted downpipe did 3.6 0-60 and 11.7 at 119mph with launch control.
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Maybe, if you have the jump a .5 sec or worse reaction time on the other drivers end means he needs to be at least .5 sec faster to a given speed to ever catch you unless his car has massive top end.

For example, you can have a guy in a 580/680 HP/TQ@1200-4500rpm car who has one hand in the wheel relaxing at a light and the guy next to him in a 6.4 hemi who is READY. The light goes green and you react to his launch it can be a very real problem catching him under 80mph. This is despite his car having no chance normally to 60 or 120, ask me how I know.....I've been on both sides of this depending on the car I'm driving. I can "beat" cars I shouldn't in my 460 because it's quiet and before most people realize I'm challenging them I'm already 20-30mph over them. In my A8 I've lost to cars that should have no chance since I wasn't aware someone was going to go for it when I was driving relaxed.

In your case you likely still would kill a slowly reacting driver or someone who isn't constantly hunting in his mirrors for "challengers". The .5 sec gap would not be enough unless you both are willing to exceed 80 to about the 130 range where the other car would take you when you are going about 95-110. It all depends on what is going on in terms of who gets the hit.
I agree with what you are saying but with an EV you don’t have to be ready like you do with ICE. It just goes so quick by flooring it and it puts the power down so well.
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Originally Posted by patgilm
The times I posted are with launch control but it’s not that hard to use launch control. Slide a lever over and hit a button and then stand on the brake, floor the gas and let off the brake. EV is much easier to launch and get consistent times.

My stage 2 tune and catted downpipe did 3.6 0-60 and 11.7 at 119mph with launch control.
Just footbrake it. It's not like you have a DSG car or anything that actually needs LC to get full performance. I never understood the craze of launch control modes for torque converted automatic cars
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Originally Posted by patgilm
I agree with what you are saying but with an EV you don’t have to be ready like you do with ICE. It just goes so quick by flooring it and it puts the power down so well.
It does, if you don't press the throttle when it's go time and delay by .5 it's a .5 delay. I'm not talking about driveline response at all, if you don't press pedal at the same time as someone else they will move first.
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Just footbrake it. It's not like you have a DSG car or anything that actually needs LC to get full performance. I never understood the craze of launch control modes for torque converted automatic cars
Not that simple, without launch control, traction control will interfere more and result in slower times. At least with the M340.
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Originally Posted by patgilm
Not that simple, without launch control, traction control will interfere more and result in slower times. At least with the M340.
Tune it out or get better tires? All LC is doing is allowing partial slip to increase wheel inertia within a set window, you can tune into the drive modes the same thing with an aftermarket tune. At least you can with Audi

I usually launch my Audi and 460 full off since it's faster to allow some wheel spin. The Audi actually burns all 4 on the 1-2 shift for a blip, I didn't believe it at first but I had someone video it. It's tune is also accommodating of the spin allowance when it's in dynamic mode. Tires also make an insane difference if they are able to produce very high boundary traction or not, mine are very good at it and picked specifically for it.
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back to the polestar please.
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Polestar will be featured in a Super Bowl commercial:

https://www.autoblog.com/2022/02/10/...mercial-video/
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Electric vehicle firm Polestar roasted Tesla CEO Elon Musk and Volkswagen in its Super Bowl ad, with references to 'conquering Mars' and 'Dieselgate'

  • Polestar's Super Bowl advert appeared to take aim at Tesla CEO, Elon Musk, and Volkswagen.
  • The electric carmaker's 30-second ad included the phrases "no conquering Mars" and "no Dieselgate."
  • Polestar told Insider the company believes in "no compromises" and wanted to share that in the ad

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/electric-...133758349.html

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yes it was an epic ad, i already posted the video in that thread.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...l#post11227976
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My counter point to that commercial. As soon as you mention or allude to a competitor you've already lost, you're admitting they are the leader. Tesla is not trying to get to Mars that is SpaceX. Tech has cross pollinated from SpaceX for things like the Plaid motors, and the technology for the gigacastings something Volvo is blatantly copying. Smart on their part but they are trash talking a company they are wisely copying. That's marketing I guess.

Every Superbowl ad talking about EVs only further legitimizes Tesla and other pure EV makers. And worse for legacy, it will make people not want their petrol cars. So what are they trying to achieve achieve exactly? I found it bizarre. The swipe at VW is justified, but VW sells a boat load of EVs compared to other legacy auto makers. Polestar should have stuck with bragging only about themselves.
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786

Electric vehicle firm Polestar roasted Tesla CEO Elon Musk and Volkswagen in its Super Bowl ad, with references to 'conquering Mars' and 'Dieselgate'

  • Polestar's Super Bowl advert appeared to take aim at Tesla CEO, Elon Musk, and Volkswagen.
  • The electric carmaker's 30-second ad included the phrases "no conquering Mars" and "no Dieselgate."
  • Polestar told Insider the company believes in "no compromises" and wanted to share that in the ad
I'd be careful if I were Polestar- the name alone is enough for its competitors to roast it back lol.
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
My counter point to that commercial. As soon as you mention or allude to a competitor you've already lost, you're admitting they are the leader. Tesla is not trying to get to Mars that is SpaceX. Tech has cross pollinated from SpaceX for things like the Plaid motors, and the technology for the gigacastings something Volvo is blatantly copying. Smart on their part but they are trash talking a company they are wisely copying. That's marketing I guess.

Every Superbowl ad talking about EVs only further legitimizes Tesla and other pure EV makers. And worse for legacy, it will make people not want their petrol cars. So what are they trying to achieve achieve exactly? I found it bizarre. The swipe at VW is justified, but VW sells a boat load of EVs compared to other legacy auto makers. Polestar should have stuck with bragging only about themselves.
It was purely a marketing move. I get what you are saying, but it was smart because there are a lot of Tesla haters that wouldn't normally think of buying an EV just to spite Tesla, and they may consider this brand just to justify buying an EV and saying "it's not a Tesla". It just gives an alternative to people who don't like Tesla as a brand. Everyone already knows they are second to Tesla, that is already a given, at least for now
Old 02-15-22 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Motorola
I'd be careful if I were Polestar- the name alone is enough for its competitors to roast it back lol.
Polestar has been around for awhile, it started out as Volvos performance division and evolved into an EV spinoff



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