Tesla Cybertruck
12-01-23, 07:27 PM
#616
Lexus Champion
12-01-23, 07:30 PM
#617
Pole Position
Glad those of us who have less money than you paid for your discount on your $90,000 truck.
They can barely give them away here.
They are not selling, not meeting projections, that's a fact. How many total are sitting on lots again??
https://fordauthority.com/2023/11/fo...arter-2023-q3/
"The most significant vehicle in history" or one of them, is a dud--- and a snail could have predicted it.
They can barely give them away here.
They are not selling, not meeting projections, that's a fact. How many total are sitting on lots again??
https://fordauthority.com/2023/11/fo...arter-2023-q3/
"The most significant vehicle in history" or one of them, is a dud--- and a snail could have predicted it.
Is the credit for higher earners fair? Arguably no, but I don't make the rules. I wouldn't qualify on any other model year due to MSRP caps and income limits so 2022 was a one time exception. But as someone who has had federal and state tax liabilities in one tax year exceed well over half a million dollars, you're not going to make me feel bad about sneaking a one time $7500 benefit. And you're welcome for whatever it was that my tax dollars did for you.
As to the rest of the post, you're posting dated info. As I have posted a few times today, the devil is in the detail. Sales in Q3 were indeed soft, due to parts shortages, recalls and a six week - or half a quarter - shutdown for factory retooling.
Turning to Q4, however:
Monthly sales record was set in Oct 2023, up 52% on the prior year, and then another new monthly sales record was set in November 2023, up 100% from the prior year.
https://insideevs.com/news/694422/fo...s-october2023/
https://electrek.co/2023/12/01/ford-...cord-november/
12-01-23, 07:35 PM
#618
Lexus Champion
You didn't pay for my credit. The credit is against my own taxes and it isn't refundable, so the only tax dollars I ever could get back are my own.
Is the credit for higher earners fair? Arguably no, but I don't make the rules. I wouldn't qualify on any other model year due to MSRP caps and income limits so 2022 was a one time exception. But as someone who has had federal and state tax liabilities in one tax year exceed well over half a million dollars, you're not going to make me feel bad about sneaking a one time $7500 benefit. And you're welcome for whatever it was that my tax dollars did for you.
As to the rest of the post, you're posting dated info. As I have posted a few times today, the devil is in the detail. Sales in Q3 were indeed soft, due to parts shortages, recalls and a six week - or half a quarter - shutdown for factory retooling.
Turning to Q4, however:
Monthly sales record was set in Oct 2023, up 52% on the prior year, and then another new monthly sales record was set in November 2023, up 100% from the prior year.
https://insideevs.com/news/694422/fo...s-october2023/
https://electrek.co/2023/12/01/ford-...cord-november/
Is the credit for higher earners fair? Arguably no, but I don't make the rules. I wouldn't qualify on any other model year due to MSRP caps and income limits so 2022 was a one time exception. But as someone who has had federal and state tax liabilities in one tax year exceed well over half a million dollars, you're not going to make me feel bad about sneaking a one time $7500 benefit. And you're welcome for whatever it was that my tax dollars did for you.
As to the rest of the post, you're posting dated info. As I have posted a few times today, the devil is in the detail. Sales in Q3 were indeed soft, due to parts shortages, recalls and a six week - or half a quarter - shutdown for factory retooling.
Turning to Q4, however:
Monthly sales record was set in Oct 2023, up 52% on the prior year, and then another new monthly sales record was set in November 2023, up 100% from the prior year.
https://insideevs.com/news/694422/fo...s-october2023/
https://electrek.co/2023/12/01/ford-...cord-november/
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swajames (12-01-23)
12-01-23, 07:37 PM
#619
Lexus Fanatic
Yeah, nobody paid for our $7,500 tax credits lol, that’s not how tax credits work.
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swajames (12-01-23)
12-01-23, 07:40 PM
#620
Lexus Champion
People are under the assumption that the government hands over a check for $7500. Nope. Doesn't work like that
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swajames (12-01-23)
12-01-23, 07:59 PM
#621
Lexus Fanatic
12-01-23, 08:06 PM
#622
Lexus Champion
Elon's failures are hidden? LMAO.
Falcon 9 is largely his design. He's likely the premiere rocket scientist alive. He slept on the factory floor because he never left the factory.
Falcon 9 is largely his design. He's likely the premiere rocket scientist alive. He slept on the factory floor because he never left the factory.
Last edited by LeX2K; 12-01-23 at 08:10 PM.
12-01-23, 08:09 PM
#623
Lexus Fanatic
12-01-23, 08:11 PM
#624
Lexus Champion
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AMIRZA786 (12-01-23)
12-01-23, 08:12 PM
#625
Lexus Champion
Is the credit for higher earners fair? Arguably no, but I don't make the rules. I wouldn't qualify on any other model year due to MSRP caps and income limits so 2022 was a one time exception. But as someone who has had federal and state tax liabilities in one tax year exceed well over half a million dollars, you're not going to make me feel bad about sneaking a one time $7500 benefit. And you're welcome for whatever it was that my tax dollars did for you.
As to the rest of the post, you're posting dated info. As I have posted a few times today, the devil is in the detail. Sales in Q3 were indeed soft, due to parts shortages, recalls and a six week - or half a quarter - shutdown for factory retooling.
Turning to Q4, however:
Monthly sales record was set in Oct 2023, up 52% on the prior year, and then another new monthly sales record was set in November 2023, up 100% from the prior year.
https://insideevs.com/news/694422/fo...s-october2023/
https://electrek.co/2023/12/01/ford-...cord-november/
So do you agree an F150 Lighting is basically the most significant vehicle of all time? Why if so? If there's gonna be an EV vehicle that carries that title, it's gonna be a Tesla (Model S).
Last edited by AJT123; 12-01-23 at 08:15 PM.
12-01-23, 08:23 PM
#626
Pole Position
I never made that claim, so it really doesn't matter whether I do or don't. But nor did the article that seems to have gotten you so upset. All it's saying is that an electrified version of the best selling vehicle in America is a big deal. Which it is, and was.
12-01-23, 08:29 PM
#627
Lexus Champion
Look at the vehicles rolling coal it's safe to say most of that demo is not ready for an EV truck. It is a curious turn of events that the most tech heavy vehicle ended up being a truck.
12-01-23, 09:52 PM
#628
Lexus Champion
They massively overshot on this one. It would be a big deal if the demand for these were high. It's not. F-150 doesn't need to be electric to impress, I absolutely loved that Ecoboost 3.5 F-150 King Ranch I had on vacation for 10 days. Brand new had 3500 miles on it.
If yours works for you, good. But for normal truck duty at least around here, pretty useless. Sales reflect it. These Fords are really sensitive to cold weather and it gets cold here.
As for being so wealthy, good for you. I don't hate on rich people unlike so many, more power to you/them.
12-01-23, 09:58 PM
#629
Lead Lap
Funny, I was thinking the exact same thing and thought maybe if he was more normal he wouldn’t be so successful. I also don’t think he is divisive, he just says what he thinks. Just because other people don’t speak their mind doesn’t mean they aren’t divisive, it’s just not in your face.