Hameed

First review I've seen from an owner (as opposed to the professional reviewers).

The video has two somewhat useful pieces of information in it. I couldn't watch the whole thing as it's clearly the first video this guy made and he rambles on to no end.

1. It's "dangerous" driving it because of all the other cars around him not paying attention to the road and making videos or taking pictures of the CT.
2. It's range is 300 miles. This is in Texas where it can't be very cold and he seems to be driving under 70 mph. Do your own extrapolations for not ideal conditions (cold, towing etc)

Blaze876

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Actual range would be 285 miles not sure how the YouTuber got 300.

Here is another range test video. Person ran it from 100-0 at 70 mph, 46 degrees, he got 254 miles.

So on a road trip your first charge stop you would typically charge to 80%. I am guessing most people won't go lower than 10%? So 70% of battery would be 178 miles. I have also seen charge curves released that doesn't look great but possibly get better with updates?

https://www.youtube.com/live/fCEeF7u...vM5mFOBBQx3vvd

spwolf

300 miles is a great hwy range for CT. I think kyle just tested it at around 255 miles in colder weather and 70 mph.

Both great hwy numbers.

It will probably end up being around 20%-30% more efficient with same tires than F150 Lighting.

spwolf

I only saw end of the charging and it looks like my Model S at 400v. Looks fine.

As to 10-80%, you would charge depending on how far are you planning to go, and how often do you have to stop for a break. You are fine to go to 1% if your Tesla tells you that you are making it. But you will not have an SC every 1%. So choice is not going to be that flexible. CT does charge fast until some 92-95%, similar to Model S.

Next charging speed will come when Tesla upgrades its chargers to 800v which CT supports... But is that this year or next, nobody knows.

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Blaze876

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I wouldn't be comfortable going down to 1% on a road trip. Charging curve I saw, at 73 degrees on a preconditioned battery it dropped to under 150kw at 40%. Under 100kw at 60%.
Graph here:
​https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com...777-png.33347/

Charging from 10% to 80% looks like it will take around 40-45 mins. How does that compare to their other models?

AMIRZA786

On trips, especially here in California, you never have to charge to 80 SoC. Doing several trips to SoCal, the longest I've spent charging is 15 minutes... and that's because I put in some extra juice. 390 miles, it's two stops...10 minutes and 12 minutes. I will charge to 80 percent when I've already gotten to my destination and am not in a hurry.

If I hit a 250 kW charger, it usually 25 minutes from 18 percent to 80 percent SoC

Blaze876

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I was just doing some rough calculation, I personally am comfortable driving 2-2.5 hours without stopping. At 70 mph that's 140 miles, add in 25 miles because I don't want to run the battery too low. So I need to charge to get at least 165 miles which puts it at around 64% if we are basing total highway range of 260 miles. Using the charging curve I've seen, that's about 25-30 mins from 10-64%. Not too bad...a bit longer than I would like.

Good news is city driving seems to be really good. Under 400 KWh being reported in some cases.

AMIRZA786

Tesla is pretty conservative with their charging curve, but it's fine in most cases. Our Ioniq 5 though can do 10 to 80 percent in roughly 18 minutes. Problem is, not enough working chargers as compared to Tesla's network. That said, I would take it to SoCal in a heartbeat. I just don't want to put too many miles on it, as it's a lease

geko29

I completely understand only charging to 80% at stops during a longer trip, but if you're at the destination, not time-sensitive, and know you're going to be going on another long drive, why would you not want to start the return trip at 100%?

When they say it's best to not always charge to 100%, I don't take that at all to mean that you should never charge to 100%.

spwolf

yeah, high speeds get really affected by aero.

Looking at that curve, i would expect it to be a bit better, not hugely - looks similar to my Model S, and way better than Model 3/Y.

Keep in mind that Cybertrack has 30kwh bigger battery than my Model S. So maybe at 400v, they manage to improve that by 2-3m in the future at best?
For 800v, thats where the actual improvement will come, because you are generating less heat to charge at their roughly 900v system and the curve can be flatter - this is what you see in Hyundai and Porsche.

You will get very comfortable at running the battery because the trip calculator will keep updating the charge at arrival based on your actual driving. Again, it all depends how far your trips are, and how often. Different tires will help. Slowing to 65mph will help. Speeding to 80mph will detract. Reality is in between because you might not be driving on flat earth and 255 mile test was in Colorado.

spwolf

There are things to learn... so LFP batteries, such as ones in RWD models, have to be charged to 100% at least once a week.

Rest of them, should be charged to 100% only if you are planning to drive right after. So yeah, when you are road tripping, better charge to 100%!

AMIRZA786

I do usually charge to 80 percent, but do sometimes up to 90 or 100 percent when travelling, especially when I get to my destination and I will be driving around SoCal. My brother in SoCal doesn't have a NEMA 14-50, so that means I have to either slow charge, or run to the Tesla chargers about a half mile away, so I will charge up to 100 percent so I have less frequent visits to the super chargers

geko29

Makes sense. Thanks for the additional context.

Hameed

Some offroad action

Margate330

I wouldn't get a hundred feet down that trail without leaving a trail of lower engine parts from my RX330. Lol