Tesla Cybertruck
02-04-24 | 12:36 PM
#1216
I admit, I'm biased towards Tesla, but that being said, Tesla was never founded as a Luxury brand, or even a Premium brand (that label was put on them). From it's very beginnings it put out experimental vehicles, and never claimed otherwise. So I put Toyota/Lexus on different footings. For example, a bumper falling off of an early Model 3 driving off the Tesla lot was the norm, but wheels falling off of a BZ4x was a surprise. When Tesla comes out with a half baked vehicle, usually only early adopters buy them until Tesla fixes all the issues. When Toyota comes out with a half baked BZ4x that can barely get 150 miles range, takes an hour to charge, I was completely shocked. I myself would never ever buy an earl Model Cyber Truck...I would wait a couple of years for them to iron out the issues.
I have different expectations when it comes to Toyota and Lexus, a brand that's been around for nearly 100 years now and prides themselves on perfection. Take it or leave it
I have different expectations when it comes to Toyota and Lexus, a brand that's been around for nearly 100 years now and prides themselves on perfection. Take it or leave it
If there was an issue with the 400v system I could give it a pass, because new tech and all....but a hubcap digging into the sidewall? lol that is ridiculous.
Anyway, you know what I just realized? The cybertruck should be the easiest vehicle in existence to be wrapped. If I was an owner I would probably try a DIY myself. You would hope that wrap shops charge less but I can bet that isn't the case.
I have seen some videos complaining about the noise inside from the motor....I think I would actually like that. I personally like mechanical sounds, I feel like Tesla may have intentionally done that.
02-04-24 | 12:39 PM
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02-04-24 | 12:43 PM
#1218
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imo I think this is the issue. People here who defend Tesla's are pretty biased when it comes to any other manufacturers and it causes other people to sway on the extreme of hating on Tesla. (not saying others aren't biased towards toyota / lexus).
Example is seen here, hubcaps have existed for maybe 100 years or more, yet Tesla could not get it right. Sure, its a bit different than other hubcaps, but imo that's irrelevant. Now instead of saying how ridiculous this issue is, how did the engineers not see this happening and they f*ed up. We get "This issue with the tires will be fixed, if it's truly an issue they will change the tires in warranty and then move on to the next discovered issue."
However, I am 100% sure when the Bz4x had the possibility of wheels falling off you likely didn't dismiss it saying "the issue with the wheels falling off will be fixed". You probably ridiculed Toyota and the BZ4x.
Now my opinion is both issues are ridiculous and should have been caught well before vehicles were sold to customers. Complete oversight by both manufacturers and down right silly. A wheel falling off might be considered a worse issue but a hubcap digging into the sidewall increasing the possibility of a blow out isn't much better.
Example is seen here, hubcaps have existed for maybe 100 years or more, yet Tesla could not get it right. Sure, its a bit different than other hubcaps, but imo that's irrelevant. Now instead of saying how ridiculous this issue is, how did the engineers not see this happening and they f*ed up. We get "This issue with the tires will be fixed, if it's truly an issue they will change the tires in warranty and then move on to the next discovered issue."
However, I am 100% sure when the Bz4x had the possibility of wheels falling off you likely didn't dismiss it saying "the issue with the wheels falling off will be fixed". You probably ridiculed Toyota and the BZ4x.
Now my opinion is both issues are ridiculous and should have been caught well before vehicles were sold to customers. Complete oversight by both manufacturers and down right silly. A wheel falling off might be considered a worse issue but a hubcap digging into the sidewall increasing the possibility of a blow out isn't much better.
02-04-24 | 12:45 PM
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02-04-24 | 12:50 PM
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02-04-24 | 12:58 PM
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IMO in the early years, Tesla could get a pass for a lot of issues because its hard to manufacturer vehicles, especially at the scale they are at. They were experimental back then, but now they are a massive player in the automotive space. Imo they are no longer a "start up" and issues like these should not be dismissed or given a pass. Even the most basic brand shouldn't have either of these issues.
If there was an issue with the 400v system I could give it a pass, because new tech and all....but a hubcap digging into the sidewall? lol that is ridiculous.
Anyway, you know what I just realized? The cybertruck should be the easiest vehicle in existence to be wrapped. If I was an owner I would probably try a DIY myself. You would hope that wrap shops charge less but I can bet that isn't the case.
I have seen some videos complaining about the noise inside from the motor....I think I would actually like that. I personally like mechanical sounds, I feel like Tesla may have intentionally done that.
If there was an issue with the 400v system I could give it a pass, because new tech and all....but a hubcap digging into the sidewall? lol that is ridiculous.
Anyway, you know what I just realized? The cybertruck should be the easiest vehicle in existence to be wrapped. If I was an owner I would probably try a DIY myself. You would hope that wrap shops charge less but I can bet that isn't the case.
I have seen some videos complaining about the noise inside from the motor....I think I would actually like that. I personally like mechanical sounds, I feel like Tesla may have intentionally done that.
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02-04-24 | 01:05 PM
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02-04-24 | 01:49 PM
#1226
Y'all see the Cybertruck that broke a rear steering bolt @ the Optima Unplugged loop at King of Hammers? 
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-cybertruck-broken-bolt/
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-cybertruck-broken-bolt/
02-04-24 | 01:54 PM
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Y'all see the Cybertruck that broke a rear steering bolt @ the Optima Unplugged loop at King of Hammers?
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-cybertruck-broken-bolt/
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-cybertruck-broken-bolt/
02-04-24 | 03:21 PM
#1228
no i'm not giving it a pass, but a wheel cover issue does not make the entire car a 'gigantic pile of junk', that's irrational hyperbole.
doesn't sound like a QC issue - sounds like a design issue. not great, but this too shall get fixed. and taking off wheel covers until revised ones are available is not the end of the world.
there you go again. but certainly the cybertruck is NEW, untried, and radical. i EXPECT it to have problems and anyone buying one in the first year or so should expect problems. a bit like many wouldn't buy a first year GM/Ford/Chrysler/Jeep product.
link? souce? i saw those too, of pre-release vehicles. nice thing about teslas is they can be fixed/improved after delivery without going in for service, even my hyundai ioniq 5 just got a big software upgrade over the air. 
Why can Telsa get away with this stunning lack of quality control?
It sure doesn't speak well for the rest of the vehicle. This thing ain't cheap.
I saw a gentle incline that the CT couldn't make it up. It wasn't a paid for thing.
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02-04-24 | 03:45 PM
#1229
tesla has a certain way of doing things. it's not for everyone. new models are for risk takers, to be sure. you may have heard their slogan "move fast and break things"... deliver product, it won't be perfect, then keep improving it fast. it's a bit like microsoft software 
If you also add in a financial ownership in the form of corporate shares it can further cloud judgement and views.
but there's room for multiple approaches to be sure... toyota had a GREAT 2023 too!
02-04-24 | 04:33 PM
#1230
ok found this about not being able to make it up an incline in an off road park...
and just like i said, the owner accepts the car is new and imperfect, but that when (presumably) tesla enables the lockers in the software, it should be fine.
and just like i said, the owner accepts the car is new and imperfect, but that when (presumably) tesla enables the lockers in the software, it should be fine.