bitkahuna

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drag races from stop and from a roll. (spoiler: revenge of the germans )

EZZ

That was discussed on the other forum. That 12s is 0.3-0.5s slower than the other Model 3s they tested prior. The after market body kit, aero, and wings didn't do good things for the car (its nowhere near stock). The M50 seems better geared for autobahn but anything under 100mph, the Tesla seems like it has an advantage. The BMW interior and quality are much nicer but if you price them out, its about $20k more comparably equipped. At least BMW is now in the market again even with the weird grills

Hameed

Revenge indeed!! 👍👍

Toys4RJill

I love your line....

Runs away from the Tesla. My favourite quote "I got that Tesla...absolutely dropping it"

spwolf

i am positively surprised that Model 3 brakes better than i4 M50, as everyone always complains about Tesla brakes. I guess it is a lot heavier vehicle.
That is also probably why M3P is faster 0-60 too. i4 M50 pulls better after that.

Bspaulsen

Mildly surprising. Though I do remember that the Tesla was a lot like the Prius: you need to keep all the factory aero (especially the wheel covers) to keep the car performing at its best.

EZZ

They added a whole new front end, wings, and suspension. The average quarter mile time is around 11.6s on the forums and prior Car Wow times are around 11.7s. I've never seen a Model 3 Performance run 12s...weird that the mods slowed the car down that much. They even did 11.8 in the wet in prior Car Wow videos.

The i4 M50 seems like a good car especially considering its not from a dedicated platform. The range suffers a lot though...227 miles with 20 inch wheel which isn't great. If you option to 19 inch wheels, range goes to 270 miles...that 20 inch wheel must be heavy as hell. I think BMW loyalists will eat this up and its already sold out for months. Competition is good...at least now it gives Tesla incentive to use the new carbon sleeve motors on the Model 3

swajames

I like CarWow videos in general, but they do have a tendency to mess up the match ups a little from time to time by using modified cars against stock or by mismatching trims/options when doing the comparison videos. Looks a little like that happened here too.

bitkahuna

iTrader: (20)

ezz, good point about those mods slowing the m3p some, but hats off to bmw to at least getting a competitive vehicle to market. as you say, competition is good.

EZZ

If they are that close, its a drivers race on reaction times. Of course the new Hummer and Rivian are about the same speed...will be weird to get out gunned by a 9000 lb SUV I think this thing will outsell the M3 when supply = demand.

spwolf

i think gearing on the BMW is better for top speed, while Tesla has a bit less HP, less weight and also is geared for lower speeds, no matter what.

Actually, BMW i4 M50 has 225kmh top speed while Tesla Model 3 Performance has 261kmh top speed. Germans actually care about this!

Toys4RJill

Just excuses for a losing vehicle in the race.
TBH, I thought the BMW was a gas model until I turned on the sound and listened to the entire video

JeffKeryk

Yeah, this race smells fishy. Where did they find this slow Model 3 Performance? Qtr mile times are generally 11.5 to 11.7 seconds at about 115 MPH. 12 seconds? Please. That's closer to the Model 3 Long Range AWD.
Maybe the state of charge was low, the driver was a big boy or those mods killed the aero drag?

bitkahuna

iTrader: (20)

even if the hummer loses, it can wait until you come around and then drive right over the top of you.

maybe they put 'special electricity' in the bmw. 12 seconds is only .3 more than 11.7, basically just reaction time. maybe the drag strip was somewhat slippery.

spwolf

there will be small EVs with 1000hp like Plaid... they will be faster than current M3P, it is fine, lol.