Tesla supercharger station gets cables stolen.
02-10-22, 02:00 PM
#16
Lexus Test Driver
Its fine...all they can do as the impending transition happens with or without their blessing. Probably why the cables were stolen in the first place...people hate change. I love how vandalism at 1 Supercharger station out of the tens of thousands gets noticed. Tesla news all the time...love it.
02-10-22, 02:07 PM
#17
Lexus Champion
Its fine...all they can do as the impending transition happens with or without their blessing. Probably why the cables were stolen in the first place...people hate change. I love how vandalism at 1 Supercharger station out of the tens of thousands gets noticed. Tesla news all the time...love it.
02-10-22, 02:11 PM
#18
Lexus Champion
Four fast chargers every 50 miles—US unveils EV infrastructure plan
Nationwide EV charging network is moving forward quickly
More cable to steal?https://arstechnica.com/cars/2022/02...tructure-plan/
02-10-22, 02:16 PM
#19
And I've had credit cards stolen at gas stations multiple times, people get mugged, raped, people's cars get stolen, there are fires, beggars selling spray wax and cleaning windshields, ever seen gas station lines on the NJ Turnpike?
This is nothing different. Bonus is I can change my EV at home and only have to visit a public charger a couple times a year, can't fuel my ICE car at home and have to risk a gas station once a week per car.
NJ turnpike rest stop gas line:
This is nothing different. Bonus is I can change my EV at home and only have to visit a public charger a couple times a year, can't fuel my ICE car at home and have to risk a gas station once a week per car.
NJ turnpike rest stop gas line:
Few things. First, we have long established that EVs are great for the tiny minority of wealthy suburbanies who have the luxury to be able to afford them, maintain them, and charge them at home. No arguments here, except even they might want to have a second ICE car for long trips.
When it comes to gas lines, they only happen during cataclysmic events. I travel the turnpike NYC to VA at least once a month, never seen a line.
That being said, depending on location, a lot of gas stations are shoddy places, you want to be in and out ASAP. For instance I don't even let my wife go to gas stations alone because the beggars problem around my area is completely out of hand. Difference is, a gas station visit is a five minute ordeal, when people spending hours at charging station, this is going to attract all kinds of crime.
02-10-22, 02:17 PM
#20
Lexus Fanatic
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02-10-22, 02:22 PM
#21
When opportunistic crime isn't being punished, there will be plenty of lowlives to steal these cables for $20 at the scrapyard, meanwhile it will cost tesla hundreds if not thousands to replace each one of them.
02-10-22, 02:26 PM
#22
Lexus Champion
I'm not so much entertained by something bad happening to EVs in particular, but more by the overall clown world degeneracy this country is spiraling down into with full support and encouragement of our leaders.
When opportunistic crime isn't being punished, there will be plenty of lowlives to steal these cables for $20 at the scrapyard, meanwhile it will cost tesla hundreds if not thousands to replace each one of them.
When opportunistic crime isn't being punished, there will be plenty of lowlives to steal these cables for $20 at the scrapyard, meanwhile it will cost tesla hundreds if not thousands to replace each one of them.
02-10-22, 02:45 PM
#23
Lexus Fanatic
Few things. First, we have long established that EVs are great for the tiny minority of wealthy suburbanies who have the luxury to be able to afford them, maintain them, and charge them at home. No arguments here, except even they might want to have a second ICE car for long trips.
https://www.energy.gov/eere/vehicles...age-or-carport
When it comes to gas lines, they only happen during cataclysmic events. I travel the turnpike NYC to VA at least once a month, never seen a line.
And...I stood in line for gas in PA just this weekend.
That being said, depending on location, a lot of gas stations are shoddy places, you want to be in and out ASAP. For instance I don't even let my wife go to gas stations alone because the beggars problem around my area is completely out of hand. Difference is, a gas station visit is a five minute ordeal, when people spending hours at charging station, this is going to attract all kinds of crime.
Sounds like they will now.
Last edited by SW17LS; 02-10-22 at 02:52 PM.
02-10-22, 02:52 PM
#24
Lexus Champion
63% of people have garage or carport parking. Very soon EVs aren't going to cost any more than ICE vehicles.
https://www.energy.gov/eere/vehicles...age-or-carport
And I travel the NJT to NJ all the time, and I have never not seen a line. In fact I specifically avoid fueling up on the NJT because of the lines.
And...I stood in line for gas in PA just this weekend.
So I suppose you admit that gas stations are beacons for crime also.
Sounds like they will now.
https://www.energy.gov/eere/vehicles...age-or-carport
And I travel the NJT to NJ all the time, and I have never not seen a line. In fact I specifically avoid fueling up on the NJT because of the lines.
And...I stood in line for gas in PA just this weekend.
So I suppose you admit that gas stations are beacons for crime also.
Sounds like they will now.
02-10-22, 02:52 PM
#25
Lexus Fanatic
02-10-22, 02:54 PM
#26
63% of people have garage or carport parking. Very soon EVs aren't going to cost any more than ICE vehicles.
https://www.energy.gov/eere/vehicles...age-or-carport
https://www.energy.gov/eere/vehicles...age-or-carport
Oh absolutely, that's why you want to be in and out as fast as possible. Charging stations are going to be a lot more convenient for those who want to commit crime.
02-10-22, 02:56 PM
#27
Lexus Champion
02-10-22, 03:06 PM
#28
Lexus Fanatic
Just no on so many levels. Many people have a carspot in the name only, in many of these spots chargers are unfeasible, and in many rural parts of the country people are so poor they can't put 50 bucks together. As far as EVs being cheap, they are not going to be cheap to maintain, those who buy cheap used cars won't be able to afford $10-20k battery replacements, and batteries are never getting cheap.
We're talking about garages and carports, not "parking spots". This is NYC thinking, when you get out in the suburbs most homes can accommodate a charger for a car. You'll also have people able to charge at work when parked, etc. For instance, I posted the picture outside my new office there is a whole row of EV chargers. I could charge while parked at work, and never have to charge at home. Thats an amenity that you're seeing pop up in garages like that all over.
No idea when you travel, but I never ever seen a line, and I mostly fuel up in NJ. Maybe if you travel during the holidays when there is increased travel, but even then, we often travel for holidays and there is never a line. Plus there are a ton of local gas stations if you get off the turnpike, it's just not an issue.
Right, its not an issue and this isn't nearly as big an issue as you say it is either.
Hey look, a line! lol
02-10-22, 03:16 PM
#29
Once all the cheap used cars are EVs, then thats what they will buy. Battery replacements wont be $10-20k, if they are even needed just like engines aren't $20k even though a new one is. There will be salvage packs, used packs, remanufactured packs, etc. This is a process that will take a REALLY long time...but yes if manufacturers stop making anything but EVs, eventually thats what cheap used cars will be too.
Ugh, no. For instance I have a driveway that on paper can accommodate 3-4 cars, in reality I never use it because it is super inconvenient, and it is typical for cities. NYC alone is 12 million people, so take that out of your 64% bs statistic. Most neighborhoods in NYC, if they somehow get public charging stations, the cables will get stolen the very next day, lol.
02-10-22, 03:18 PM
#30
Lexus Champion
Battery packs are not getting cheap, no way. The demand for rare earth metals is only going to increase, and so will the price of battery packs. Salvage and remanufactured packs are going to be good for a few month at best, and a huge fire hazard.
Ugh, no. For instance I have a driveway that on paper can accommodate 3-4 cars, in reality I never use it because it is super inconvenient, and it is typical for cities. NYC alone is 12 million people, so take that out of your 64% bs statistic. Most neighborhoods in NYC, if they somehow get public charging stations, the cables will get stolen the very next day, lol.
Ugh, no. For instance I have a driveway that on paper can accommodate 3-4 cars, in reality I never use it because it is super inconvenient, and it is typical for cities. NYC alone is 12 million people, so take that out of your 64% bs statistic. Most neighborhoods in NYC, if they somehow get public charging stations, the cables will get stolen the very next day, lol.