AMIRZA786

Here's a company that sells and replaces the battery for under $2K:

https://greenbeanbattery.com/prius-hybrid-battery/

They are going to 1000 percent become cheaper, that's how all electronics work, from TV's to Microwaves. You guys have negative waves that just emanate all around you

SW17LS

Thats just ridiculous. They have been selling used and remanufactured battery packs for hybrids for 10+ years and they aren't terribly expensive at all. Perfectly safe, warrantied

You live in NYC, most people don't. I'm in the real estate business in an executive capacity with a national company. I have watched inventory and traveled all over the country and seen the housing inventory. Most homes in suburban areas can accommodate a vehicle charging solution. Urban settings are a different story.

And its not my statistic...look it up. Similar stats are available from a variety of sources.

You hate EVs and dread whats coming, but this absurd gaslighting has got to stop. All of this will work itself out in time. Remember, people used to have horses that pulled buggies and to them cars were playthings for the rich, imagine how improbable the current infrastructure for cars looked then.

Och

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You simply do not understand how warranty on these remanufactured parts works. The $900 battery pack is some old almost depleted pack, if it fails before the warranty fails the manufacturer will provide replace it with another one that is just as bad, and he'll still be on the hook for labor to replace it. A new battery pack from the factory has not gotten any cheaper.

AMIRZA786

Your just so negative. He been running on this battery pack for two years and it hasn't lost capacity yet. Even if it does in the next 3 or 4 years its so cheap you can replace them again

SW17LS

And you think the repairs people "who don't have $50 to rub together" make to their "old dilapidated cars" come with warranties? You think they aren't replacing dead transmissions with almost dead transmissions?!

There are ABSOLUTELY legitimate warrantied solutions for replacement battery packs for hybrids and there have been for years.

SW17LS

Here's a company in MD. Just Google.

https://greenbeanbattery.com/prius-h...AaAqIbEALw_wcB

AMIRZA786

My brain is hurting just reading all this denial, might as well not provide proof because it seems to be a pretty meaningless exercise

Och

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There are very few remanufactured parts that are quality, they are mostly junk. Unlike the hybrids, most EVs use lithium battery which have the chemistry akin to dynamite - premixed for explosion. There is nothing safe about a battery pack remanufactured by some shady shop.


Suburban areas yes, but your 64% statistic includes urban areas such as NYC, that's why I call BS.

I don't hate EVs, and I don't dread what's coming, lol. There will be plenty of ICEs for my lifetime, the EV narrative will encounter some "unforeseen difficulties" because reality is a thing. I'm just enjoying watching the turdshow.

AMIRZA786

A brand new battery pack from Toyota is $2500, and a new engine from Toyota for a Prius is $4000 plus. Most people don't buy new, they buy used or refurbished regardless if it's an engine, transmission or a hybrid battery pack. Even the lead acid batteries we buy for our cars are all refurbs

mmarshall

On the stolen cables, I don't know if they have copper in them or not, but, if they do, right there is one possible clue why they were stolen. Copper, right now, is like gold on the black market.......has been for several years. Thieves are ripping copper-parts off left and right. Just ask any plumber....he or she is likely to have been ripped off recently, as our own condo-maintenance man was.

Och

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Oh absolutely, and by doing that they are often only digging themselves deeper into the hole. Pay to replace a dead part with an almost dead part, get stuck on the road, pay for the tow truck, pay for labor to install another half dead part.

Lithium battery packs are expensive for a reason, it is not just manufacturers being greedy, and experts agree they will only increase in price as demand increases.

Och

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Of course, there are construction demolition crews bringing whatever copper wire to the scrap yards all the time. The Tesla supercharger cable is rated for over 500V/400A, there is a lot of copper in it. Once the word spreads, cable theft is going to become widespread.

AMIRZA786

An EV cable, they might get $10 if they are lucky, so I would worry more about getting my CAT stolen, which gets a thief gets between $50 and $200 per CAT

SW17LS

I think this is a situation where you think you know more about this than you do. Where are all the reports of these remanufactured battery packs exploding? There aren't any. There will be remanufactured EV battery packs

And in any event, a new from Tesla pack for a Model 3 is about $7,000. On the Chrysler Pacifica forums owners are paying $9,000 for new engines.

Again, not my statistic but yes it includes urban areas, that just shows you how high the % is in non-urban areas to compensate for the % being that high. Its from the American Housing Survey as part of the US Census. But, I guess thats not legitimate either? (thats the gaslighting)

If you would like to read the whole survey here it is:

https://www.census.gov/programs-surv...filtergroup2=1

Here's the breakdown:





Oh, please! LMAO.

And they will do the same with old EVs.

Och

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Apples to oranges. I'll take measures to protect my own property, but I couldn't care less if someone steals cables at an EV charging station. The people stealing these cables for $10 at the scrapyard are not exactly rational human beings, they are just trying to score a hit of meth, lol.