EV Chat General discussion about electrified Lexus, other EV vehicle manufacturers and BEV, PHEV related industry news.

Lucid Q4 & Full Year 2021 Financials + New Factory in Saudi Arabia

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-08-22, 10:11 AM
  #91  
1111GS
Moderator
 
1111GS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: US
Posts: 2,910
Received 91 Likes on 79 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by LeX2K
Would be very foolish for Tesla to build a cheap car when they can't keep up with demand for expensive ones.
Didn't he talk about making Model 2 or something? In any case, IMO ​​​​​​Model 3 is pretty cheap if you factor in all the things.
Originally Posted by GFerg
Not buying any lcid just yet. Every pop in the market is getting sold off a day or two later. I'm cool with waiting on the sidelines to add to my position. Hopefully next week we have more clarity with the FED. One checkpoint out of many in these crazy times.
It's been up 10% since last Thursday when it hit 6 month low. Yeah the market is very volatile. I pretty much day trade for a while. I keep track how much a stock usually gains/loses daily and get in/out/buy/sell/short when needed. Most of the time it works, other times it doesn't If it doesn't, I'll just wait.
Old 03-08-22, 10:22 AM
  #92  
AMIRZA786
Lexus Champion
 
AMIRZA786's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: California
Posts: 13,576
Received 2,098 Likes on 1,630 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 1111GS
Didn't he talk about making Model 2 or something? In any case, IMO ​​​​​​Model 3 is pretty cheap if you factor in all the things.

It's been up 10% since last Thursday when it hit 6 month low. Yeah the market is very volatile. I pretty much day trade for a while. I keep track how much a stock usually gains/loses daily and get in/out/buy/sell/short when needed. Most of the time it works, other times it doesn't If it doesn't, I'll just wait.
I'm all mostly long term, I suck at short term trading. Although I'll probably offload my GGPI (Polestar ****) if it shoots up when they decide to IPO
Old 03-08-22, 11:39 AM
  #93  
sg021
Intermediate
 
sg021's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: PA
Posts: 341
Likes: 0
Received 22 Likes on 16 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by SW17LS
The Model 3 is what I’m talking about. All the preorders are fully refundable…that’s not the point. They’ve made promises to people they never intended to honor. They got free use of a TON of money interest free. Brilliant. People will line up to give them that interest free loan too.
There was a point when I agree the pre-order money was important to them, and the pressure to demonstrate that more models were on the way.
Cutting the base model fell into their lap with the Model S since it was obvious early on that the take rate on bigger battery models would sustain their small initial production rate for years. They did honor the preorders for the base Model S that never was though, I know someone with one that is software limited to base range.
They intended to lead with the cheaper version on the Model 3, but I have no doubt they had a similar strategy in mind from the start if the wheels came off so to speak.
Old 03-08-22, 11:41 AM
  #94  
EZZ
Lexus Test Driver
 
EZZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: CA
Posts: 7,460
Received 227 Likes on 170 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 1111GS
Didn't he talk about making Model 2 or something? In any case, IMO ​​​​​​Model 3 is pretty cheap if you factor in all the things.

It's been up 10% since last Thursday when it hit 6 month low. Yeah the market is very volatile. I pretty much day trade for a while. I keep track how much a stock usually gains/loses daily and get in/out/buy/sell/short when needed. Most of the time it works, other times it doesn't If it doesn't, I'll just wait.
No. Tesla never officially said they would build a lower end model. They said they could but never had any promises with regards to that roadmap. In their latest roadmpa discussion , they didn't even mention it as they can't build Model 3/Y fast enough to keep with demand. Also, they did say they would offer a $35k variant of the Model 3 and they did. I personally know a couple people with one so it wasn't vaporware.

Also, they currently have 2 products which they took reservations for but haven't delivered which is the infamous Roadster, Cybertruck, and now the defunct Plaid plus. Plaid plus never materialized because they got upped the performance of the Plaid and it actually was similar to the original performance claim of the Plaid plus...also, Plaid plus was supposed to use the 4680 cells but those are so limited, they probably abandoned that idea. From a product delivery standpoint, they've kept their other promises but were always a bit late (except for Model Y).

The one thing they did promise but never delivered is FSD. That promise will never be kept.
Old 03-08-22, 12:31 PM
  #95  
LeX2K
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
 
LeX2K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Alberta
Posts: 19,837
Received 2,826 Likes on 2,389 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by GFerg
Yup, I agree. Most of my action with lcid has been all short term option plays riding momentum up and down. I have a few shares in the teens that Im not touching for minimum of 5 years.
People love to buy LCID when it's down which tends to swing the stock up 5-10%.

Usual disclaimer this is not financial advice. But people, if you are going to day trade use money you can afford to lose. Dump whatever amount into your trading account and consider it casino cash could be gone at any time.

Originally Posted by 1111GS
It's been up 10% since last Thursday when it hit 6 month low. Yeah the market is very volatile.
Even today the stock spikes 10% then pulls back 5% or more. Market is bananas.

So let's predict Lucid's production numbers for 2022. I'll say 1200.

Old 03-08-22, 01:12 PM
  #96  
swajames
Pole Position
 
swajames's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SF Bay Area, CA
Posts: 2,417
Received 649 Likes on 404 Posts
Default

Again, a reminder that TSLA was in the doldrums for years before it went into overdrive. LCID, RIVN and their ilk won't deliver TSLA-like growth, but they are more likely than not - IMO of course - to break out and pop once the current madness settles down.

The smartest money of all held simply bought and held TSLA.


Old 03-08-22, 02:39 PM
  #97  
GFerg
Speaks French in Russian

 
GFerg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: What is G?
Posts: 13,280
Received 64 Likes on 49 Posts
Default

If ppl holding lcid or rivn expecting Tesla like gains, you already lost in my opinion. I personally can't see that happening. I have my target on my shares in 5 years or more and I'm gone on 85 percent of my holdings if it ever gets there. Keep the rest in play for runners.
Old 03-08-22, 02:43 PM
  #98  
bitkahuna
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
 
bitkahuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Present
Posts: 74,628
Received 2,372 Likes on 1,557 Posts
Default

ok folks, this thread is NOT about tesla. the stock discussions have nothing to do with cars but if they're confined to LCID that's ok (since that's about the only news there is out of this struggling company).
Old 03-08-22, 03:07 PM
  #99  
LeX2K
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
 
LeX2K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Alberta
Posts: 19,837
Received 2,826 Likes on 2,389 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bitkahuna
(since that's about the only news there is out of this struggling company).
savage lol

It's true though. Well Lucid did have a recall recently which required the car to be taken to Lucid. Haven't made it as an auto company until you've had a recall that requires a dealer visit.
Old 03-10-22, 12:51 PM
  #100  
EZZ
Lexus Test Driver
 
EZZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: CA
Posts: 7,460
Received 227 Likes on 170 Posts
Default

What a great video from a real car guy.

Old 03-10-22, 01:36 PM
  #101  
AMIRZA786
Lexus Champion
 
AMIRZA786's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: California
Posts: 13,576
Received 2,098 Likes on 1,630 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by EZZ
What a great video from a real car guy.

https://youtu.be/JxuB4H6uCq8
That is an awesome video. And that is an awesome car, I hope they succeed, as I hate that fricking yoke in the Plaid
Old 03-10-22, 01:38 PM
  #102  
EZZ
Lexus Test Driver
 
EZZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: CA
Posts: 7,460
Received 227 Likes on 170 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
That is an awesome video. And that is an awesome car, I hope they succeed, as I hate that fricking yoke in the Plaid
Jason is the best car journalist on Youtube...hands down.
Old 03-10-22, 03:33 PM
  #103  
RXSF
Moderator
 
RXSF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 12,050
Likes: 0
Received 73 Likes on 44 Posts
Default

Loved that review. Glad Jason is back, I thought he went back to Edmunds but havent seen any content from him in a while
Old 03-10-22, 06:48 PM
  #104  
Stormwind
Racer
 
Stormwind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: CA
Posts: 1,935
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

damn should have sold lcid when it 3x to $60ish, now it's back to the price i bought in at.
Old 03-10-22, 07:24 PM
  #105  
LeX2K
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
 
LeX2K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Alberta
Posts: 19,837
Received 2,826 Likes on 2,389 Posts
Default

Could be much worse. Lucid will probably go near $30 again in the next few weeks or sooner so you can get out with a mild profit.


Quick Reply: Lucid Q4 & Full Year 2021 Financials + New Factory in Saudi Arabia



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:28 PM.