Tesla is no longer delivering new cars with charging cables
04-18-22, 09:11 PM
#16
Lexus Test Driver
Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I spoke to my friend who is an electrician, and he told me wall chargers that are hard wired have higher amperage, and are more efficient than the 240v chargers that need to be plugged in. Plus it's just more convenient than pulling the charger out
04-18-22, 09:27 PM
#17
Lexus Champion
04-19-22, 04:17 AM
#18
Lead Lap
That’s exactly why I bought the Tesla wall charger, plus it looks really nice and tidy.
04-19-22, 04:22 AM
#19
We put a 240v in the garage and use the mobile charger. I preferred to have something brand agnostic installed, and we didn't really have a use case for the mobile charger otherwise.
To me, not including it only makes sense as money saving for Tesla. It's not like a phone where you accumulate chargers, unless the car was wrecked the charger is going to go to the next owner.
To me, not including it only makes sense as money saving for Tesla. It's not like a phone where you accumulate chargers, unless the car was wrecked the charger is going to go to the next owner.
04-19-22, 06:46 AM
#20
If you are going to overpay that much for a glorified electric Corolla, I don't see where $500 is a big deal. And if you are buying a Model S, $500 shouldn't be that big deal.
04-19-22, 07:27 AM
#21
Lexus Champion
LOL I'm not sure how you came out with that comparison. Sorry, I respect your opinions but that's just whacky
04-19-22, 07:47 AM
#22
For most people, the Wall Unit provides convenience and is a good idea if you have 2 Teslas, but the cable is all you really need.
04-19-22, 07:55 AM
#23
Lexus Champion
Not exactly... The charger is in the car. The Wall Unit or cable supplys the juice. My car, a 2018 Mid Range, can only take 32A so the Wall Unit does nothing beyond keeping the cable in the frunk.
For most people, the Wall Unit provides convenience and is a good idea if you have 2 Teslas, but the cable is all you really need.
For most people, the Wall Unit provides convenience and is a good idea if you have 2 Teslas, but the cable is all you really need.
04-19-22, 08:18 AM
#24
Lexus Test Driver
Originally Posted by JeffKeryk
Not exactly... The charger is in the car. The Wall Unit or cable supplys the juice. My car, a 2018 Mid Range, can only take 32A so the Wall Unit does nothing beyond keeping the cable in the frunk.
For most people, the Wall Unit provides convenience and is a good idea if you have 2 Teslas, but the cable is all you really need.
For most people, the Wall Unit provides convenience and is a good idea if you have 2 Teslas, but the cable is all you really need.
Also turns out that the increased cable length of the Wall Charger allows me to get another EV and not have to move my car. Bonus
04-19-22, 08:57 AM
#25
I believe the only other car that doesn't come with any mobile charging cable is the Kia EV6 (in the US at least). All the other manufacturers still provide at least level 1 cables. For now, at least. Other companies seem to want to copy the worst of the Tesla decisions, so I won't be surprised if more companies remove that as a 'freebie'.
With 240v in Europe, they are actually very useful and I use it all the time. Just replenished 40% overnight with it, and by tomorrow morning I will be at 100%.
In Europe, lots of manufacturers dont offer mobile chargers or ac cables included (two that I screenshoted), you have to pay extra and people dont know this. For instance, VW group locally.
04-19-22, 09:00 AM
#26
It's not about need for sure. It's about convenience and if I'm to charge my car everyday for the next 5-8 years, $500 is a pittance to any level of increased convenience.
Also turns out that the increased cable length of the Wall Charger allows me to get another EV and not have to move my car. Bonus
Also turns out that the increased cable length of the Wall Charger allows me to get another EV and not have to move my car. Bonus
People do not know what they need, EVs are new for most of the buyers.
04-19-22, 09:54 AM
#27
Not so different. Almost exactly the same size. Electrons vs gas.
As the author noted " A quick note before we get started: YES, I KNOW THESE ARE VERY DIFFERENT CARS CONCEPTUALLY. But formally, they aren't so divergent. You could electrify the Corolla or gasify the Model 3 and have something of an interchangeable experience."
If the Model 3 had a gas engine, it would be a direct competitor with the Corolla. Only thing really special is the fact that it's an EV, and that contributes to it's high price.
04-19-22, 10:39 AM
#28
Lexus Champion
https://www.businessinsider.com/tesl...atures-2019-10
Not so different. Almost exactly the same size. Electrons vs gas.
As the author noted " A quick note before we get started: YES, I KNOW THESE ARE VERY DIFFERENT CARS CONCEPTUALLY. But formally, they aren't so divergent. You could electrify the Corolla or gasify the Model 3 and have something of an interchangeable experience."
If the Model 3 had a gas engine, it would be a direct competitor with the Corolla. Only thing really special is the fact that it's an EV, and that contributes to it's high price.
Not so different. Almost exactly the same size. Electrons vs gas.
As the author noted " A quick note before we get started: YES, I KNOW THESE ARE VERY DIFFERENT CARS CONCEPTUALLY. But formally, they aren't so divergent. You could electrify the Corolla or gasify the Model 3 and have something of an interchangeable experience."
If the Model 3 had a gas engine, it would be a direct competitor with the Corolla. Only thing really special is the fact that it's an EV, and that contributes to it's high price.
04-19-22, 10:54 AM
#29
Lexus Test Driver
I've driven and owned Corollas, and I've driven in a Model 3, and they are in no way comparable. The Model 3 is far superior in technology, performance, and efficiency. The Model 3 is a technological marvel, the Corolla is...a Corolla. Performance wise Model 3 competes with the BMW 240i coupe, and M340i. In no way is the Corolla even close in any type of comparison with a M3, except maybe it has four wheels
04-19-22, 10:58 AM
#30
https://www.businessinsider.com/tesl...atures-2019-10
Not so different. Almost exactly the same size. Electrons vs gas.
As the author noted " A quick note before we get started: YES, I KNOW THESE ARE VERY DIFFERENT CARS CONCEPTUALLY. But formally, they aren't so divergent. You could electrify the Corolla or gasify the Model 3 and have something of an interchangeable experience."
If the Model 3 had a gas engine, it would be a direct competitor with the Corolla. Only thing really special is the fact that it's an EV, and that contributes to it's high price.
Not so different. Almost exactly the same size. Electrons vs gas.
As the author noted " A quick note before we get started: YES, I KNOW THESE ARE VERY DIFFERENT CARS CONCEPTUALLY. But formally, they aren't so divergent. You could electrify the Corolla or gasify the Model 3 and have something of an interchangeable experience."
If the Model 3 had a gas engine, it would be a direct competitor with the Corolla. Only thing really special is the fact that it's an EV, and that contributes to it's high price.
Once you add in the other qualifiers: "They each have four doors, six windows, and four wheels.", we're pretty much there.