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I know LOTS of people with Teslas, I can think of 5 with older ones over 100k miles and I actually see a fair number of older Model S's that must be up there. I don't think they are nearly as "unreliable" as people think.
In any event, I haven't had a car with more than 50,000 miles on it in many years...its a non issue for me.
we put alot of miles, the RX I was thinking of replacing last couple of years but its just trouble free even though it has so many miles. have a 1up MTB bike rack on it for our bikes and the canoe goes on it too when we go to the mountains. I have only replaced brakes and tires on it. Just put on some nice meaty tires on it and It works fine minor trails that we throw at it.
I am very interested in the new sequoia more than the new LX. its just getting smaller and our boys are big. I actually ordered a model Y performance and ended up cancelling 2 weeks ago reading all the horror stories plus it was impulse buy...and waiting to see what other brands are doing with their electric line up. I have the Tesla wall charger with no car The i4M50 looks nice though, Lets see what MB bings to the table
my LC500 5.0L v8 is quite slow in acceleration until rpm's reach maybe 3k+. the li'l 2.5 turbo 4 cylinder in my suv (in sport mode) pretty much leaps right off the line. obviously in a head to head, say 0-60 or quarter mile the lc would win, but still. i do LOVE my NA v8 though because it runs at about 1200rpm at 70mph (thanks .
That V8 isn’t tuned for low end torque, it’s a screamer. Plenty of NA V8s are (or were) monsters down low. Good ole displacement.
I didn't care for turbos until I got a car with turbos. Turbos are good!
All can be forgiven if Toyota would have put a V8 in this LX. If it were turbo, then that is fine but not having a V8 is super cheap by Toyota. Mercedes got it right with the G wagon, they offer a V8 with full time 4WD.
All can be forgiven if Toyota would have put a V8 in this LX. If it were turbo, then that is fine but not having a V8 is super cheap by Toyota. Mercedes got it right with the G wagon, they offer a V8 with full time 4WD.
it’s to be seen how reliable they are in long run.
my rx350 just hit 195k and that thing runs it’s brand new
This may be Lexus' selling point to some. But when
Originally Posted by SW17LS
Not a lot of luxury car buyers keep their vehicles that long though
it becomes invalid. My experience with Lexus wasn't completely trouble free and I didn't keep them long either. The last GX started drifting to the right on freeway after about a year or so. I always had to hold the steering wheel and "pull" to the left to keep it straight. Took it to Lexus, they checked and said everything was in specs. Took it to an independent shop. They ran the alignment test. It showed it was in specs but not dead center. Took it back to Lexus. They said nothing they could do because it was in specs. I had to swallow it. After this I started driving the car harder than I usually do. I switched off auto and used gears. About past two years, the car started to feel different. It doesn't drive and feel as a 2 year old Lexus anymore. I felt something was coming so I ditched it. I did read a bit into it and it wasn't uncommon that GX owners had similar issues like mine. It was very annoying.
Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Don't why anyone would want a V6 or I6 over a V8 ridiculous.
There you have it from first hand experience (sports) V8 vs. (I4) turbo.
Originally Posted by bitkahuna
it's not 'ridiculous', there's cost of purchase, fuel costs to consider, whether someone needs it, and frankly, modern turbo v6's for example offer some ADVANTAGES over an NA v8. some on here often talk about low end torque being better on a v8. i'd argue for most modern ttv6's it's not even close, the ttv6 is much quicker off the line.
my LC500 5.0L v8 is quite slow in acceleration until rpm's reach maybe 3k+. the li'l 2.5 turbo 4 cylinder in my suv (in sport mode) pretty much leaps right off the line. obviously in a head to head, say 0-60 or quarter mile the lc would win, but still. i do LOVE my NA v8 though because it runs at about 1200rpm at 70mph (thanks also to a 10 speed), is smooth, but about its sound, i really don't hear the engine, just the exhaust.
I was curious so I looked it up.
LC500: Curb Weight: V8 4,340 to 4,540 lbs 0-60: 4.6
Santa Fe: I4 turbo Curb Weight: 3,649 to 4,076 lbs 0-60: 7.95
X5 40i: I6 turbo Weight: 4,828 to 5,260 lbs 0-60: 5.3
GLE450: I6 turbo Weight: 4,991 lbs0-60: 5.3
I wonder how you would feel in one of these I6 turbo.
This may be Lexus' selling point to some. But when
it becomes invalid. My experience with Lexus wasn't completely trouble free and I didn't keep them long either. The last GX started drifting to the right on freeway after about a year or so. I always had to hold the steering wheel and "pull" to the left to keep it straight. Took it to Lexus, they checked and said everything was in specs. Took it to an independent shop. They ran the alignment test. It showed it was in specs but not dead center. Took it back to Lexus. They said nothing they could do because it was in specs. I had to swallow it. After this I started driving the car harder than I usually do. I switched off auto and used gears. About past two years, the car started to feel different. It doesn't drive and feel as a 2 year old Lexus anymore. I felt something was coming so I ditched it. I did read a bit into it and it wasn't uncommon that GX owners had similar issues like mine. It was very annoying.
Same. My experience with my S Class has been remarkably similar to my experience with all my Lexus vehicles, in fact more trouble free than some.
Like the features standard on the old one? I can't believe on a vehicle this expensive they made AHC an option. AHC is glorious.
They did that because there is no Land Cruiser. So the enthusiast who really wants the 300, they can buy the Lexus and do suspension modes without having to deal with the AVS. The Toyota 100, 200 and new 300 are all available with adaptive variable suspension outside of the US. Toyota once had AVS in the 2006-2007 Land Cruiser in the US as an option, but it was not well-liked (apparently)
Originally Posted by SW17LS
I’ve never understood why they don’t bring some features here!
They are just being cheap.
Other things such as the door pulls are not the new style in the NX or RX with electric parts.
Toyota went through the efforts of designing the LX with front, centre and rear locking diffs. But not available in the US.
Running boards are colour-keyed on top trim Land Cruiser 300
No pano-roof (but that would not bother me as I like the regular moonroofs)
All can be forgiven if Toyota would have put a V8 in this LX. If it were turbo, then that is fine but not having a V8 is super cheap by Toyota. Mercedes got it right with the G wagon, they offer a V8 with full time 4WD.
keep beating that drum (no one at toyota/lexus is listening) ... and a g wagon is 50% more expensive too.
A few other things: how does a new RX or NX have a faster 0-60 time than the flagship? by like more than 1.5 seconds.
the United States does not get a finger print sensor? Really?
Not that speed is a factor for this SUV but what models RX/NX are you talking about? This is not fast enough? That is plenty fast considering X7 at 5.8 and GLS450 at 5.5. As for the finger sensor, it's cool but not that convenient IMO.
When people stop buying their products they will realize the errors of their ways. I don't care if they are listeningActions speak louder than words Toyota did a cheap move with the 2022-2023 4Runner where they removed parts from the vehicle that where standard and they put it into the accessories where you have to now pay extra. The LX600 with a V6 is slower than cheaper Lexus vehicles...tragic
10-07-22, 09:58 PM
The i4M50 looks nice though, Lets see what MB bings to the table
ridiculous.
