Long distance trip ev (non Tesla) charging still a big problem
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The main issue for me is that when I travel like I did a couple days ago I don’t want to have to plan to stop. I just want to stop where and when I want. If I’m hungry and I need to charge up how do I know that there is a place I want to eat and charge in the same parking lot or general vicinity where I could walk to do both. If by chance I can’t/don’t want to do both at the same time, that equals two longish stops.
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The problem with this thread and many others who share the same view is that they are trying to force a circle block in a square hole. I don't think any of the people in this thread are proponents of taking EV's on long road trips, they acknowledge it is a shortcoming. But the anti EV crowd keeps forcing a non issue.... its like the people who **** on EV's and towing. No duh if you take a big Ford Lightning and take it somewhere cold and make it pull a trailer your range will suck? Is that not known from the past decade of EV's being on the road?
At the end of the day, buy the vehicle that suits YOUR NEEDS. I commute to work and bumble around the local areas in my free time but I almost never drive more then 100 miles a day. I also don't go on long road trips as I would rather fly. An EV would work for me perfectly. BUT i don't own one as I live in a condo and don't have a charger. So it doesn't work for my current situation. Which is fine...
If you were a consumer that needed a lot of space, towing capability, long distance range, you have a full market of ICE vehicles. EV's aren't stealing your gas engines from you. Buy that.
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At the end of the day, buy the vehicle that suits YOUR NEEDS. I commute to work and bumble around the local areas in my free time but I almost never drive more then 100 miles a day. I also don't go on long road trips as I would rather fly. An EV would work for me perfectly. BUT i don't own one as I live in a condo and don't have a charger. So it doesn't work for my current situation. Which is fine...
If you were a consumer that needed a lot of space, towing capability, long distance range, you have a full market of ICE vehicles. EV's aren't stealing your gas engines from you. Buy that.
/thread
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The problem with this thread and many others who share the same view is that they are trying to force a circle block in a square hole. I don't think any of the people in this thread are proponents of taking EV's on long road trips, they acknowledge it is a shortcoming. But the anti EV crowd keeps forcing a non issue.... its like the people who **** on EV's and towing. No duh if you take a big Ford Lightning and take it somewhere cold and make it pull a trailer your range will suck? Is that not known from the past decade of EV's being on the road?
At the end of the day, buy the vehicle that suits YOUR NEEDS. I commute to work and bumble around the local areas in my free time but I almost never drive more then 100 miles a day. I also don't go on long road trips as I would rather fly. An EV would work for me perfectly. BUT i don't own one as I live in a condo and don't have a charger. So it doesn't work for my current situation. Which is fine...
If you were a consumer that needed a lot of space, towing capability, long distance range, you have a full market of ICE vehicles. EV's aren't stealing your gas engines from you. Buy that.
/thread
At the end of the day, buy the vehicle that suits YOUR NEEDS. I commute to work and bumble around the local areas in my free time but I almost never drive more then 100 miles a day. I also don't go on long road trips as I would rather fly. An EV would work for me perfectly. BUT i don't own one as I live in a condo and don't have a charger. So it doesn't work for my current situation. Which is fine...
If you were a consumer that needed a lot of space, towing capability, long distance range, you have a full market of ICE vehicles. EV's aren't stealing your gas engines from you. Buy that.
/thread
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YOU are making this about something it's not. i'd really appreciate you not crapping all over threads you don't approve of.
You may not be “anti EV” but literally everything you post about EVs is about their shortcomings.
there's plenty of positive ev threads you can fanboy in if you want. this was meant to be informative. if you don't like it, you're free to not post in it (please).
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So if I had a fully charged Tesla the range wouldn't change at all if I had a 1.5 hour commute each way that was 17 miles? It would come home with approximately 35 miles less after B2B traffic for 3 hours say in the brutal heat A/C blasting? Genuinely curious. That was the commute situation when we were there, West LA to Torrance and back.
I couldn't even break 10MPG in my LS430 out there, it was bad. But I was in the thick of it, gridlock.
I couldn't even break 10MPG in my LS430 out there, it was bad. But I was in the thick of it, gridlock.
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YOU have been stating they're a reasonable option because charging doesn't take long, etc. i have even made this thread NOT about tesla, because tesla is an ok option to me on long trips.
YOU are making this about something it's not. i'd really appreciate you not crapping all over threads you don't approve of.
YOU are making this about something it's not. i'd really appreciate you not crapping all over threads you don't approve of.
I would also suggest that you talk to a moderator about someone "crapping on a thread" vs just disagreeing with you. I think I have been very fair and reasonable and courteous towards my fellow members in this thread. You however have been very rude to me, calling me a troll etc. If you don't want to read what I post, just put me on your ignore list.
i posted a video, about a long trip where the youtuber, a MASSIVE ev fan, despite LOVING the bmw ix, shows the shortcomings on a long road trip (doesn't have to be 1100 miles like he did).
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Thats the hybrid system for you, thats one of the big benefits of ICE cars with 48V systems, the AC still works when the engine cuts off at a stop. In my cars with ESS and no 48V system the AC dies when they are shut off. That efficiency you are seeing is because your hybrid doesn't have a traditional belt driven system, same as an EV.
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Thats the hybrid system for you, thats one of the big benefits of ICE cars with 48V systems, the AC still works when the engine cuts off at a stop. In my cars with ESS and no 48V system the AC dies when they are shut off. That efficiency you are seeing is because your hybrid doesn't have a traditional belt driven system, same as an EV.
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Electric motors are dramatically more efficient vs. belt driven compressor.
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How long can the heat or AC stay running if, for example, you were stuck behind a traffic jam or wreck.
Would say an hour longer trip due to stuff like that affect range much?
Would say an hour longer trip due to stuff like that affect range much?
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let’s knock off the personal commentary folks or thread will be closed
also, I’d really love to see answers to the questions in this thread from EV owners who have personal experience with many of the questions posted here, less conjecture from folks who don’t own one
also, I’d really love to see answers to the questions in this thread from EV owners who have personal experience with many of the questions posted here, less conjecture from folks who don’t own one