Why are many factory spoilers I see angled slightly backward?
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Why are many factory spoilers I see angled slightly backward?
Have you ever noticed in side profile pics of someones car with a OEM spoiler who is looks like it's angled backward (or upward) slightly? It's like it doesn't lay flat on the trunk lid. More specifically, the front screw of the 2 screws that go into the lid has more space between the trunk and the spoiler than the rear.
I've seen this quite a few times and then checked out my car yesterday and damned if mine isn't angled too! What's going on here?
Has anyone done anything to remedy this, (or even notice?) and if so, how?
Sorry if this sounds very confusing, but you probably have an idea of what I mean. I wish i had a pic to show you....
I've seen this quite a few times and then checked out my car yesterday and damned if mine isn't angled too! What's going on here?
Has anyone done anything to remedy this, (or even notice?) and if so, how?
Sorry if this sounds very confusing, but you probably have an idea of what I mean. I wish i had a pic to show you....
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There are at least three slightly different varieties of OEM spoilers you'll find on a GS.
Here's a pic of Dex's old blue and my rear spoiler, both added at the dealer (dealer option, but not from factory - we both had third brakelight on back deck which is how you can tell if you didn't buy new). His was a little longer off the back and swooped up slightly where mine is flat.
The third one goes further up the trunkline almost to the back window and lays even flatter / closer to the trunk than mine. I think this one is OEM from factory on 1998 GSs (likely others).
Is that difference what you mean?
Here's a pic of Dex's old blue and my rear spoiler, both added at the dealer (dealer option, but not from factory - we both had third brakelight on back deck which is how you can tell if you didn't buy new). His was a little longer off the back and swooped up slightly where mine is flat.
The third one goes further up the trunkline almost to the back window and lays even flatter / closer to the trunk than mine. I think this one is OEM from factory on 1998 GSs (likely others).
Is that difference what you mean?
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Mine looks just like that blue one that "swoops up in the back" a little bit. However the angle of the entire spoiler (not just the swooped part) looks to be angled backward a little bit.
It's almost like if you could tighten up the front screw it would sit flush instead of angled backward.
It's so damn hard to explain, but I think you're onto it.
It's almost like if you could tighten up the front screw it would sit flush instead of angled backward.
It's so damn hard to explain, but I think you're onto it.
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Originally posted by DaveGS4
There are at least three slightly different varieties of OEM spoilers you'll find on a GS.
Here's a pic of Dex's old blue and my rear spoiler, both added at the dealer (dealer option, but not from factory - we both had third brakelight on back deck which is how you can tell if you didn't buy new). His was a little longer off the back and swooped up slightly where mine is flat.
The third one goes further up the trunkline almost to the back window and lays even flatter / closer to the trunk than mine. I think this one is OEM from factory on 1998 GSs (likely others).
Is that difference what you mean?
There are at least three slightly different varieties of OEM spoilers you'll find on a GS.
Here's a pic of Dex's old blue and my rear spoiler, both added at the dealer (dealer option, but not from factory - we both had third brakelight on back deck which is how you can tell if you didn't buy new). His was a little longer off the back and swooped up slightly where mine is flat.
The third one goes further up the trunkline almost to the back window and lays even flatter / closer to the trunk than mine. I think this one is OEM from factory on 1998 GSs (likely others).
Is that difference what you mean?
The black spoiler reminds me of my brother's Honda Accord's spoiler--flatter top wing foil (i.e. non-curved lip at the top rear of the spoiler) and the sides of it are flush with the trunk line.
Any other owners with spoilers want to comment on how theirs looks like? I was thinking of adding one sometime in the future (maybe in the summer) but would like to know what the real factory OEM design is.
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Originally posted by SeattleGS400
I could be mistaken (as I haven't seen it recently), but my sister's GS400 has a factory spoiler (i.e. it came on the car from the factory that way and it has no interior deck 3rd brake light) and I think it has a spoiler designed like the blue one. Further, I remember looking directly from the back of her car, the sides of the spoiler extended a little bit wider than the trunk line.
The black spoiler reminds me of my brother's Honda Accord's spoiler--flatter top wing foil (i.e. non-curved lip at the top rear of the spoiler) and the sides of it are flush with the trunk line.
Any other owners with spoilers want to comment on how theirs looks like? I was thinking of adding one sometime in the future (maybe in the summer) but would like to know what the real factory OEM design is.
I could be mistaken (as I haven't seen it recently), but my sister's GS400 has a factory spoiler (i.e. it came on the car from the factory that way and it has no interior deck 3rd brake light) and I think it has a spoiler designed like the blue one. Further, I remember looking directly from the back of her car, the sides of the spoiler extended a little bit wider than the trunk line.
The black spoiler reminds me of my brother's Honda Accord's spoiler--flatter top wing foil (i.e. non-curved lip at the top rear of the spoiler) and the sides of it are flush with the trunk line.
Any other owners with spoilers want to comment on how theirs looks like? I was thinking of adding one sometime in the future (maybe in the summer) but would like to know what the real factory OEM design is.
Here's a picture of mine straight on from the back so you can see the width on the trunk line.
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Just browsing on Ebay and I found this one with a factory spoiler. See how the sides of the spoiler extend past the trunk line? The pic isn't good, but the rear lip of the spoiler looks like it's curving upwards--like SRT's factory spoiler.
I'll try to get an angled side shot to see if the rear lip does indeed curve upwards.
I'll try to get an angled side shot to see if the rear lip does indeed curve upwards.
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Here's an angled side shot. It does indeed look like it's curved upwards at the rear lip (esp. if you catch the right rear portion of it).
Any other owners with spoilers that came on the car direct from the factory want to comment?
Any other owners with spoilers that came on the car direct from the factory want to comment?
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Note quite the prettiest color for a Lexus GS, but here's another rear shot of the factory spoiler (you can tell, as there is no interior deck 3rd brake light).
The sides of the spoiler are definitely extending past the trunk lid by a little bit, almost meeting the top edge of the rear side fender (like the black spoiler above in the angled rear shot).
However, as for the existence the rear top foil curvature on this bronze spoiler, it can not be discerned from this angle.
The sides of the spoiler are definitely extending past the trunk lid by a little bit, almost meeting the top edge of the rear side fender (like the black spoiler above in the angled rear shot).
However, as for the existence the rear top foil curvature on this bronze spoiler, it can not be discerned from this angle.
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ok, hold on
First off, my spoiler is definitely the one with the "flared" up rear portion, aka- the one that extends past the trunk lid a little bit, aka- the one that goes slightly further up the trunk toward the rear window.
However, while I find it interesting that there are 3 different styles of OEM spoilers, this isn't really what I was originally trying to distinguish.
What I'm saying is that the entire spoiler itself seems like it's mounted incorrectly and angles toward the rear of the car a little bit. (like the front part of the spoiler is up in the air a little bit)
Does anybody understand what I mean, because it's quite hard for me to describe...
However, while I find it interesting that there are 3 different styles of OEM spoilers, this isn't really what I was originally trying to distinguish.
What I'm saying is that the entire spoiler itself seems like it's mounted incorrectly and angles toward the rear of the car a little bit. (like the front part of the spoiler is up in the air a little bit)
Does anybody understand what I mean, because it's quite hard for me to describe...
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Re: ok, hold on
Originally posted by AWay
First off, my spoiler is definitely the one with the "flared" up rear portion, aka- the one that extends past the trunk lid a little bit, aka- the one that goes slightly further up the trunk toward the rear window.
However, while I find it interesting that there are 3 different styles of OEM spoilers, this isn't really what I was originally trying to distinguish.
What I'm saying is that the entire spoiler itself seems like it's mounted incorrectly and angles toward the rear of the car a little bit. (like the front part of the spoiler is up in the air a little bit)
Does anybody understand what I mean, because it's quite hard for me to describe...
First off, my spoiler is definitely the one with the "flared" up rear portion, aka- the one that extends past the trunk lid a little bit, aka- the one that goes slightly further up the trunk toward the rear window.
However, while I find it interesting that there are 3 different styles of OEM spoilers, this isn't really what I was originally trying to distinguish.
What I'm saying is that the entire spoiler itself seems like it's mounted incorrectly and angles toward the rear of the car a little bit. (like the front part of the spoiler is up in the air a little bit)
Does anybody understand what I mean, because it's quite hard for me to describe...
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Re: Re: ok, hold on
Originally posted by SeattleGS400
Are you referencing how the factory spoiler is mounted onto the trunklid? I've noticed that the factory spoilers that came originally w/ the car are mounted flush to the rear of the trunk, and that the front of the spoiler (about 3-4") is not even touching the trunk lid--much like SRT's factory spoiler.
Are you referencing how the factory spoiler is mounted onto the trunklid? I've noticed that the factory spoilers that came originally w/ the car are mounted flush to the rear of the trunk, and that the front of the spoiler (about 3-4") is not even touching the trunk lid--much like SRT's factory spoiler.
Atleast you know what i mean now.
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Re: Re: Re: ok, hold on
Originally posted by AWay
Ding ding ding! You got it. Yeah, that's what i mean, the mounting of the spoiler. Mine was added on by my dealer about a week after delivery and is mounted in this angled fashion. Weird. I was wondering if there was any way to remedy this? Perhaps put some more rubber or a bigger grommet in the rear of the spoiler as to even it out?
Atleast you know what i mean now.
Ding ding ding! You got it. Yeah, that's what i mean, the mounting of the spoiler. Mine was added on by my dealer about a week after delivery and is mounted in this angled fashion. Weird. I was wondering if there was any way to remedy this? Perhaps put some more rubber or a bigger grommet in the rear of the spoiler as to even it out?
Atleast you know what i mean now.
Nonetheless, I'm sure that you could make some mods to it to get it fully flush to the trunk lid, but in the end, it's probably best just to leave it for durability's sake. Alternatively, you could get another style spoiler that is fully flush (front to back) and install that instead.
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