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Manual shift option on the Gs430 and 540i

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Old 07-21-04, 08:24 AM
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Default Manual shift option on the Gs430 and 540i

Does the GS430 come with some kind of control of shifting?
I tried looking up this information on the Lexus website but there is no mention of manual-shift paddles or buttons for the 2001-2004 GS430. I know that the Gs300 has it. I was wondering if the later models of the Gs430 had it too. It seems that the manual shift is a pretty useful thing to have, considering the sporty nature of the car. I am trying to decide between a preowned 540i and Gs430. The engine performance of the GS430 seems to be better than that of the 540i but the 540i has that Steptronic transmission with manual shift capability (and a sportier suspension).
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01+ GS430 does not have E-Shift (buttons on the steering wheel). Only had it on '98-'00 models.
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I will confirm what rookie said. Lexus decided to reverse the e-shift availability when the 01s came out. In 98-00 GS300 = no eshift, GS400 = eshift
01-present GS300 = eshift, GS430 = no eshift
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with gs430, all you can do is gate shifting
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Originally posted by rominl
with gs430, all you can do is gate shifting
sigh. imho, that is keeping the gs430 from being a pretty awesome sport sedan. oh well, the 540i or c32amg it is then..
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You could also consider a low mileage 2000 GS400 with e-shift. Not sure just how 'new' you want to buy.
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Originally posted by DaveGS4
You could also consider a low mileage 2000 GS400 with e-shift. Not sure just how 'new' you want to buy.
That is definitely something to think about. Was looking at newer ones (2002-2003)...Interestingly the c32-amg cars are similar in price (used) to the Gs430... It prob doesnt have the refinement of the Gs but it does do the 1/4 mile in 13.5 !
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I too was considering the 540i vs. GS400/430. I won't go into all the reasons I went with the GS, but will tell you that I love this car and am glad it has the e-shift feature. I use it frequently and like it a lot!
Not a lot of difference between the '00 GS400 and '01GS430 (engine displacement up, HP and performance same). Yeah, I know there are some other differences too, but essentially the same car.
If you can find a super clean low mileage '00 GS400 that might be the best choice for you.
Of course, I am slightly biased!
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Originally posted by FutureGS400
I too was considering the 540i vs. GS400/430. I won't go into all the reasons I went with the GS, but will tell you that I love this car and am glad it has the e-shift feature. I use it frequently and like it a lot!
Not a lot of difference between the '00 GS400 and '01GS430 (engine displacement up, HP and performance same). Yeah, I know there are some other differences too, but essentially the same car.
If you can find a super clean low mileage '00 GS400 that might be the best choice for you.
Of course, I am slightly biased!
he he.. sure you are.. I do realy love the the looks, the interior and the engine.. I dont mind going to the aftermarket to find a manumatic retrofit, Steering wheel mounted paddles plus some new software and the right connections should be able to do it.. I just dont get why Lexus discontinued the manual shift option...
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Originally posted by karthick
That is definitely something to think about. Was looking at newer ones (2002-2003)...Interestingly the c32-amg cars are similar in price (used) to the Gs430... It prob doesnt have the refinement of the Gs but it does do the 1/4 mile in 13.5 !
yeah if you really want the e-shift badly, get the 2000 gs4. a lot of them has low mileage and it's just as good. powerwise the gs400 and the gs430 are practically the same, i don't see how the gs430 is really outrunning the gs400 performance wise.

and yeah of course trhe c32 can kill the gs400/430 any day man, that's a freaking fast car. but it's also damn small as well as the fact that it might spend a lot of time at the shop
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Get a low mileage 99 or 2000 GS400. I have a 99 and I use the e-shift buttons a lot especially on on-ramps and doing any kind of spirited driving in the twisties.
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Default Convert it to E-Shift Paddle

What needs to be done to add the paddle shifting to a 98 GS300?

Seems to me its simply the transmission control unit and the paddle assembly instead of the stock 98 shifter?

Does anyone know for sure?
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steering wheel, shift plate, computer, all harness. that's what i can think of right now

costs for parts alone, the labor is what kills you
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I thought the paddle shift was also located at the shift-plate where the std shufter is?

Does the steering wheel just have the on/off button?

What about electronic transmission control unit?

I think the tranny itself is identical in all 300's and 400's right?
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Originally posted by ChaosOrion
I thought the paddle shift was also located at the shift-plate where the std shufter is?

Does the steering wheel just have the on/off button?

What about electronic transmission control unit?

I think the tranny itself is identical in all 300's and 400's right?
Don't know about what is needed to convert a non-eshift car to one that has it, but to answer your first question:
~It's not really a "paddle" shift, rather a "button" shift I guess. There are 4 buttons on the steering wheel hub-two on the front and two on the back. Two on the front are for down shifting and the two on the rear are for upshifting. Easy to use, works great! Just have to put the shifter in the "Manual" mode and leave it there to use eshift.
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