nyczdave

Can some one tell me the pro's and con's of the GS 430 vs the GS 400?
Im trying to decide on which one to get?
Are they the same HP?
any big differences?
All input would be appreciated.
Thanks

DaveGS4

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Dave,

This has been discussed many times before, just searching will get you lots of input with no waiting.

I searched for 'which gs400 gs430' and found these among many others:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...ch+gs400+gs430
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...ch+gs400+gs430
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...ch+gs400+gs430
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...ch+gs400+gs430
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...ch+gs400+gs430

Some of the differences (others in the threads above):

4.3 liter engine with slightly more tq vs 4.0 same HP
e-shift on GS400 (98 - 00), not on GS430 (01+)

the 98-00 GS has nakamichi as the upgrade sound system. also the navigation system is hdd base. and i believe you can only get one of the two and not both. on the 01+ GS, the upgraded audio is mark levinson. also all navigation systems are dvd based now. in 2001, the ML audio and the nav were separate options, you can get one or the other, or you can get both. but since 2002 they have become a combo option, you have to get both ML and navigation together if you want to upgrade. the stock premium audio system hasn't changed since 98, they are pioneer

the 01+ GS430 has a new style engine cover compared to 98-00 GS400. however you can't fit the engine cover on the GS400, the bolt patterns are different.

GS430 has different
Gauge cluster
TailLights
Headlights
Exhaust tips
gearshift bezel
Wood ashtray
Compass rear view mirror
Wood steering wheel

nyczdave

ok thanks.

nyczdave

Ok if there was a 400 and a 430 with the same miles and color... and taking into consideration that the 400 has Eshift, HDD Nav, pioneer system and no side Air bag,
compared to a
430 without Eshift, DVD Nav, ML system, side air bag

And taking into consideration that the 430 will be about a couple of Gs more.

Which would you get?

Basically which car is a better bargain?

Would the DVD and ML system be worth spending more?

TLW

what color do you want and be specific

diffrent whites and sivers and blues you know

might make it eaier to decide

johnny

nyczdave

Well I am looking for a Black on Black or Black on Blue

And in both cars I am looking to get all the options possible.
NAV a must.

engin_ear

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I'd go 430, even though I love the E-shift. I'll take the newer car with more torque, airbags, and better sound system.

lexusk8

Just to point this out to you nyczdave, generally when we mention our color choices on a Lexus, we state it as "[exterior color] on [interior color]". There are many choices for the exterior, but only a handful or less for the interior. Exterior colors tend to change their lineup after every model year, but a majority of the interior colors are kept the same throughout. For example, the most common interior colors on a Lexus GS ('98+) are black, ivory and light charcoal. You stated that you are looking for Black on Black, or Black on Blue. Perhaps you mean Blue on Black (as there is no factory interior color for blue)?

SCWells72

I bought my '01 GS430 in late '00 and could have bought a new holdover '00 GS400 at the same time, so I've considered this before. To me the DVD-based navigation + Mark Levinson + steering wheel audio controls + upgraded interior and taillights (much of which can now be retrofitted) + extra torque pushed me toward the GS430. I've gotten GS300s and IS300s with E-Shift and have used it (though never on a GS400), and frankly I prefer gate shifting which you can do on the GS430 anyway. All of these gear selecting/holding techniques on an automatic transmission are slugging and not really at all like a true manual transmission, so I'd recommend not including that as a high priority consideration. Others may hold the exact opposite opinion of course.

My vote would be for the 430.

nyczdave

yeh im looking for either black on black or black on blue...

nyczdave

if some people wont mind can you please tell me how much you paid for your GS430..preferably if you bought it used.
miles and $$ and yr and color please.

Thanks

b1gredek

id pick a gs430 cause its newer, i like the speaker on the dash, looks cool, also cause the 430 name sounds better than the 400, but this is just me, also i dont really like the e shift anyways,

SoCalSC4

I bought a 2000 for a few reasons:

- I wanted Spectra Blue (2000 was the last year for this color) with grey or black leather (couldn't find black, got grey)
- E-Shift (it turns out I use this feature daily!)
- Greater 'tunability' of engine
- Better performance (seems like the 400s are actually a bit quicker than the 430s)

By the way, my 2000 has side air bags...

nyczdave

What do u mean by "tunability"?

i thought only 01+ had side airbags.

DaveGS4

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You're both kind of correct. Even my 1998 has side impact airbags, but what the 2001 + have in addition are side "curtain" airbags. From Lexus.com