I shoulda listened... (should have bought GS4 instead of GS3)
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Originally posted by NT2SHBBY
I don't understand some of you guys...
I bought a maxima-modded the hell out of it and killed the little "luxury" it had
I bought this lexus to keep it what it was-LUXURY.
I just don't get people who buy a luxury car to add boost to it, to make it into a supra-which is what they should've bought in the first place.
IMO, if you want fast-buy a sports car
if you want luxury and some power to go along for the ride, get a GS400 or a 540i
I don't understand some of you guys...
I bought a maxima-modded the hell out of it and killed the little "luxury" it had
I bought this lexus to keep it what it was-LUXURY.
I just don't get people who buy a luxury car to add boost to it, to make it into a supra-which is what they should've bought in the first place.
IMO, if you want fast-buy a sports car
if you want luxury and some power to go along for the ride, get a GS400 or a 540i
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Originally posted by NT2SHBBY
I don't understand some of you guys...
I bought a maxima-modded the hell out of it and killed the little "luxury" it had
I bought this lexus to keep it what it was-LUXURY.
I just don't get people who buy a luxury car to add boost to it, to make it into a supra-which is what they should've bought in the first place.
IMO, if you want fast-buy a sports car
if you want luxury and some power to go along for the ride, get a GS400 or a 540i
I don't understand some of you guys...
I bought a maxima-modded the hell out of it and killed the little "luxury" it had
I bought this lexus to keep it what it was-LUXURY.
I just don't get people who buy a luxury car to add boost to it, to make it into a supra-which is what they should've bought in the first place.
IMO, if you want fast-buy a sports car
if you want luxury and some power to go along for the ride, get a GS400 or a 540i
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all FI super fast car except the m5, which is NA but still a beast
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to me luxury and fast are two totally independent entities. i can have a luxury car, but it can still be stupidly fast. heck, my car with the exhaust it's still quieter than some cars with stock exhaust
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Originally posted by rominl
well, i don't know how you explain the following then![Smilie](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
m5, e55, c32, cl55, cl65, sl55, sl65, s55, s65, s600
well, i don't know how you explain the following then
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m5, e55, c32, cl55, cl65, sl55, sl65, s55, s65, s600
As far as the topic of this thread goes, I think it is more a function of the owner than anything else. Just ask yourself what you want and what you are willing to do/spend to get it. When I was shopping my plan was to get a GS4 or get a GS3 and SC it. At this point in time, I'm happier with the 4, I have "good" power that is factory reliable and it came with the cost of admission! Forced Induction is not a simple open/shut case that some think it is. It involves tuning (dyno, etc), maintenence, and (most importantly) ancillary items (gauges, exhaust, piping, etc etc).
So just figure out what type of person you are, and make your decision based on that!
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thanks all that chimed in...
it truly is a matter of taste...im not a speed demon nor do i want to be...im more of the "luxury with power type"...thats why i decided to trade it in (which i havent done yet)...im well aware that i could get serious power out of the 300 if i wanna spend 10k...its not about money...its about the whole package - NAV HID etc...not to mention that my experience in modding cars is you have to pay to play - i cant imagine doing FI and SC amongst other things doesnt come without consequences (maintenance, unexpected trouble)...so again to reiterate...i love my GS300 but i want the factory power and options from the 430 for me to add on to...unless of course someone in this thread wants to sponsor me and really go buck-wild...
thanks again to all you members who so thoroughly help each other and the newbies
it truly is a matter of taste...im not a speed demon nor do i want to be...im more of the "luxury with power type"...thats why i decided to trade it in (which i havent done yet)...im well aware that i could get serious power out of the 300 if i wanna spend 10k...its not about money...its about the whole package - NAV HID etc...not to mention that my experience in modding cars is you have to pay to play - i cant imagine doing FI and SC amongst other things doesnt come without consequences (maintenance, unexpected trouble)...so again to reiterate...i love my GS300 but i want the factory power and options from the 430 for me to add on to...unless of course someone in this thread wants to sponsor me and really go buck-wild...
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thanks again to all you members who so thoroughly help each other and the newbies
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Originally posted by rominl
well, i don't know how you explain the following then![Smilie](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
m5, e55, c32, cl55, cl65, sl55, sl65, s55, s65, s600
all FI super fast car except the m5, which is NA but still a beast![Big Grin](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
to me luxury and fast are two totally independent entities. i can have a luxury car, but it can still be stupidly fast. heck, my car with the exhaust it's still quieter than some cars with stock exhaust
well, i don't know how you explain the following then
![Smilie](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
m5, e55, c32, cl55, cl65, sl55, sl65, s55, s65, s600
all FI super fast car except the m5, which is NA but still a beast
![Big Grin](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
to me luxury and fast are two totally independent entities. i can have a luxury car, but it can still be stupidly fast. heck, my car with the exhaust it's still quieter than some cars with stock exhaust
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Originally posted by chuckb
There is a huge diff between the cars you noted which are stock high power lux and tranforming a GS3. I would take factory engineering over a high strung self engineered GS3 anyday. There is a lot to be said for factory R&D and design , mainly reliability , drivability and warranty.
There is a huge diff between the cars you noted which are stock high power lux and tranforming a GS3. I would take factory engineering over a high strung self engineered GS3 anyday. There is a lot to be said for factory R&D and design , mainly reliability , drivability and warranty.
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Good point though
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Originally posted by D2-AUTOSPORT
Thats a good point, but if built properly, a GS can perform as well (or better- if you factory the grenading AMG engines lately). Now if you boost a GS to 800hp, maybe not. But with moderate boost( mabe 325-350hp), proper installation, etc it can be very reliable, IMO
Good point though
Thats a good point, but if built properly, a GS can perform as well (or better- if you factory the grenading AMG engines lately). Now if you boost a GS to 800hp, maybe not. But with moderate boost( mabe 325-350hp), proper installation, etc it can be very reliable, IMO
Good point though
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Originally posted by rominl
yup, that's my point. dont' factor in the built and quality together with reliability. we are not talking about money and labor art here. given that money isn't an issue and you can find a good shop, you can put a turbo on the gs3 or sc on the gs4, very nicely, runs super smooth, and still very quiet inside the cabin. that's the challenge, but it's doable. just look at the s600, i love that example
yup, that's my point. dont' factor in the built and quality together with reliability. we are not talking about money and labor art here. given that money isn't an issue and you can find a good shop, you can put a turbo on the gs3 or sc on the gs4, very nicely, runs super smooth, and still very quiet inside the cabin. that's the challenge, but it's doable. just look at the s600, i love that example
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S600= $120k car
GS400=$50k car
S600 > GS400 end of story
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for me, on a 0 to 10 scale measuring both luxury and sport, i might go
sport: luxury = 6:4 as i value both sport and luxury but it is extremely difficult for us to tune our cars perfectly just like the factory tuned m3, m5, or other amg models.(amg models actually lack sport, they are just straight rockets) personally i wouldnt go with things like...800HP GS, dont think its daily drivable.
a 450HP GS is just perfect for what it is in my point of view.
sport: luxury = 6:4 as i value both sport and luxury but it is extremely difficult for us to tune our cars perfectly just like the factory tuned m3, m5, or other amg models.(amg models actually lack sport, they are just straight rockets) personally i wouldnt go with things like...800HP GS, dont think its daily drivable.
a 450HP GS is just perfect for what it is in my point of view.
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Originally posted by NT2SHBBY
Henry, as much as I love ya as a fellow GS brotha, I have to disagree
S600= $120k car
GS400=$50k car
S600 > GS400 end of story
Henry, as much as I love ya as a fellow GS brotha, I have to disagree
S600= $120k car
GS400=$50k car
S600 > GS400 end of story
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gs400 50k
a good sc setup, 20k
all fully luxury setup (audio, comfort, etc... 30k)
total of 100k, still 20k cheaper than the s600 and you have a faster, more reliable, and more luxurious car
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Originally posted by rominl
haha no problem man, discussion is discussion![Smilie](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
gs400 50k
a good sc setup, 20k
all fully luxury setup (audio, comfort, etc... 30k)
total of 100k, still 20k cheaper than the s600 and you have a faster, more reliable, and more luxurious car
haha no problem man, discussion is discussion
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gs400 50k
a good sc setup, 20k
all fully luxury setup (audio, comfort, etc... 30k)
total of 100k, still 20k cheaper than the s600 and you have a faster, more reliable, and more luxurious car
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Originally posted by rominl
haha no problem man, discussion is discussion![Smilie](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
gs400 50k
a good sc setup, 20k
all fully luxury setup (audio, comfort, etc... 30k)
total of 100k, still 20k cheaper than the s600 and you have a faster, more reliable, and more luxurious car
haha no problem man, discussion is discussion
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gs400 50k
a good sc setup, 20k
all fully luxury setup (audio, comfort, etc... 30k)
total of 100k, still 20k cheaper than the s600 and you have a faster, more reliable, and more luxurious car
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Why not just get a new house.
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Originally posted by SC400-V8
I dont think a supercharger setup will cost you all of 20,000 bucks... and what the heck are you buying for 30K for fully luxury setup!?!?!?
Why not just get a new house.
I dont think a supercharger setup will cost you all of 20,000 bucks... and what the heck are you buying for 30K for fully luxury setup!?!?!?
Why not just get a new house.
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Originally posted by SC400-V8
I dont think a supercharger setup will cost you all of 20,000 bucks... and what the heck are you buying for 30K for fully luxury setup!?!?!?
Why not just get a new house.
I dont think a supercharger setup will cost you all of 20,000 bucks... and what the heck are you buying for 30K for fully luxury setup!?!?!?
Why not just get a new house.
plus, get a new house? we are talking about money no issue here man!