GS - 2nd Gen (1998-2005) Discussion about the second generation GS300, GS400 and GS430 (1998 - 2005)

Modded GS300 or stock GS400/430... which would you go with?

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Old 11-11-04, 12:16 AM
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Thanks for the heads up Bluelex!

Kinda hard to understand sometimes since I'm a pretty 'basic person'.

I like the idea of more power out of the box and with those added pieces (LSD, SRT, TC, VBU) to the GS400, they seem less 'intrusive' to the overall system. One thing that wasn't mentioned was an ECU upgrade. Is that needed as well?

Running a turbo just seems like you're asking the engine to do more than what it was designed to do originally and as such, may compromise the life of the engine. I'm not only looking at short term happiness or long term happiness through sinking another 7k into an aging GS3, I'm looking for long term happiness, reliability, peace of mind, strong resale value and a lower total cost of ownership in mind.

Basically, since I'm a 'basic' kinda guy, I'm just looking at the big picture.



I guess the GS3 is fine for now. It does seem like a smoother ride than my dad's GS4. But I'm young and I want more power! But - patience is a virtue, I'll just wait until my company goes public and trade in some stock options for a GS400.

Thanks all for the input.

Clifford


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don't take this the wrong way but if your asking why do a 300 with FI instead of a 400 with some mods than just get the 400/430....to the basic person a 400/430 with 245 RWHP is enough, get a couple things like say TC 700.00 + 400 install, SRT intake 550.00 + 100.00 install, LSD 1500.00 + 200 install, VBU(valve body upgrade) 1200.00 +400 install= $5050.00 to get about 280RWHP mayb 290RWHP with great TQ and low end power...with about 1K more u can do a simple turbo on a GS3 and have easliy about 300-320RWP....or u can do a for about 2K more a toyomoto supercharger and get a nice smooth 310-320RWP......a lot of people get gs3 cuz they want a nice smooth car with some zip, than they do some boost for great power that the 400's can't match...some people get the 400's cuz they want power from the door and can't wait till later for much more power. it depends on want u really want out of your car in the short term or the long term....good luck
Old 11-11-04, 12:54 AM
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oh what the hell....go for it all....gs430 with a turbo ...but i think it'd be more fun to do a 2jz swap
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Originally posted by GSracerRY
oh what the hell....go for it all....gs430 with a turbo
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Default all flash site... awesome site - but... all flash? :(

Whoa dude, you've got a slick ride.

Your web site says you're running 5lbs of boost... that sounds fairly conservative. How much HP does that translate into and what did all of that run ya? 6-7k?

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oh what the hell....go for it all....gs430 with a turbo ...but i think it'd be more fun to do a 2jz swap
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Originally posted by cliffud
Whoa dude, you've got a slick ride.

Your web site says you're running 5lbs of boost... that sounds fairly conservative. How much HP does that translate into and what did all of that run ya? 6-7k?

Thanks RY.

c.
umm, i can't remember off the top of my head, i think it's about 380hp? the cost is way higher than 7k i can tell ya. it's not easy to do that on the gs4 at all. it was all custom setup. but the problem is on the tranny, it can't hold that kind of power well
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Originally posted by cliffud
Thanks for the heads up Bluelex!

Kinda hard to understand sometimes since I'm a pretty 'basic person'.

I like the idea of more power out of the box and with those added pieces (LSD, SRT, TC, VBU) to the GS400, they seem less 'intrusive' to the overall system. One thing that wasn't mentioned was an ECU upgrade. Is that needed as well?

Running a turbo just seems like you're asking the engine to do more than what it was designed to do originally and as such, may compromise the life of the engine. I'm not only looking at short term happiness or long term happiness through sinking another 7k into an aging GS3, I'm looking for long term happiness, reliability, peace of mind, strong resale value and a lower total cost of ownership in mind.

Basically, since I'm a 'basic' kinda guy, I'm just looking at the big picture.



I guess the GS3 is fine for now. It does seem like a smoother ride than my dad's GS4. But I'm young and I want more power! But - patience is a virtue, I'll just wait until my company goes public and trade in some stock options for a GS400.

Thanks all for the input.

Clifford
didn't mean in it in a bad way, i meant in general terms. its all up to the individual and what they want. so i meant in general people will take the 400 for its out the box power. yet we have a lot lately who have supercharged that car aswell for some 350-380RWHP and we have some crazy heads who have or will have(in process) twin turbo gs4's with 500RWP. than we have the guys who do the gs3 which u can get more power out of for less money if they want high HP or u could do a simple T-kit and get 320RWHP easy. some like to get the 400 spend 4500-5k and get 260-270 RWHP like rom said which will give u great power from the touching of the gas peddle cuz u will b in the high rpm range with great switching of gears and less slippage when flooring it but still 260RWHP. so it depends really on what u want from the car..good luck...

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Old 11-11-04, 01:29 PM
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GS300 is also fast. It can run 130 mph all day. To answer your question, it's a matter of knowing yourself and how fast "novelty" of appearance versus "novelty" of power wears off on you.

Other folks though don't care about speed, they simply like the style, so GS4 is not the answer because the GS3 can address that at a slighly lower cost.

Peronally, I know that I can handle the appearance factor better than the "power" factor.. For example, I can live with my car being stock looking or dirty, as long as I have gobs of power. Reverse the situation and I go nuts.
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