rominl

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yup it's overseas, and there are more aristo/gs with no sunroof there

but anyway, they also exist here in the US, though it's way too rare to even mention

i have seen a GS400 with no sunroof and cloth seats @_@

e-man

This was probably answered already, but it actually is an option. The thing is that no dealer would order one without it because 99% of the potential buyers would want it. I've seen one without a sunroof, but it was a special order for a tall person who wanted the extra head room. In fact, I once saw an ES300 with no sunroof and no leather (and, if I recall correctly, and a 5 speed manual tranny). The reason I saw it was because someone had special ordered it from my Lexus dealer and then backed out of the deal.

e-man

bitkahuna

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If I could have gotten my GS without a sunroof I would have.

LexFather

You do have a big **** head.

Yes, I think 98-99% of Lexus have sunroof leather. Most all option packages have CD changer/sunroof/leather as the basic 1st package on all Lexus ES/IS/GS3/RX3.
It is a little more common too see a non roof/cloth IS and rarer on the GS/ES/RX.

If it has leather and no sunroof, it had to be special order. Since both are optioned together.
Bitkahuna will remember, REALMARTY here got a GS 430 when it first came out and he insisted on no wood wheel and no spoiler. THey had to make it in Japan and it took I think 6-8 months to arrive.

chuckb

Why would you insist on no wood wheel? I love my wood wheel!

BTW-I wonder if no sunroof makes the body more rigid and how much weight would it save?

rominl

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hahaha yeah, performance to the last bit right?

actually on the is300, the roof and leather they are more separated. you see almost every single is300 with roof, but a lot of them without the leather. i think on the is300, leather is more associated with nav (if you get nav, you get leather together with heated seats, something like that).

and yeah, gs430 almost always come with spoiler

rominl

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yup, would love to know. i think in terms of rigid it should be about the same, but the weight reduction should be noticeable, especially you are reducing weight from one of the worst possible spot on a car

chuckb

my 430 came w no spoiler

rominl

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i know an old time member RAristo his car came with no spoiler too