Originally Posted by NT2SHBBY

agreed.....the price on that car WAS $34,000 reduced to $31,000 and placed on special in an ad for $29,795.00

Originally Posted by nyczdave

Well one problem with me trying to negotiate is that one of my friends works there and they are saying that the price they are giving me is the lowest price because they are giving me there " wholesale price" is that believable? does anyone know or worked at a lexus dealership? were they able to hook up there friends like that? or is that just BS the salesman is pulling out of his a$$?

Originally Posted by rheiy

Is your friend the sales rep or does he work there in another position of influence? If your friend is the sales rep, how close are you in your friendship (ie: true friends or just someone you see every now and then) If your close friends and you have complete trust in him, then he should be able to give you the best possible deal. Also, was the special price an advertized price available to the general public? If so, there's wiggle room...100, 200, 500, who knows? If your friend is someone other than the sales rep and is not in a position to influence the pricing, then negotiate... business is business --- it's your hard earned money you'll be handing over.
Let us know how things turn out. Good Luck!

Originally Posted by nyczdave

Well my friend who works there isn't a sales rep. he just does bs work around the dealership. but he is pretty cool with all the sales reps. But honestly im not to close to this kid but we have mutual friends. They told me that they were selling the car for 31K but NT2SHBBY said he saw an ad for it in a mag for 29,700 so the sales rep is selling it to me for 29,495. That is including everything except tax. with tax it comes out to about 32K all together.
Does anyone know about a fee for CPO cars? Do you have to pay extra for that? Cause my friend said that he over heard the sales rep talking and they said that they forgot to charge me like an $800 CPO fee. is anyone that bought a CPO lexus familiar with that or have any clue?

Originally Posted by rheiy

Did the dealer advertize the car as CPO? If so, their pulling a fast one. When a Lexus is sold with CPO, there's no add on fee --- they build it into the asking price of the car. I would not trust any dealer that adds on a CPO fee "after the fact" unless that car was clearly advertized as non CPO. Also, if the car is truly CPO, it should have already been inspected and there should be a CPO sticker on the vehicle. (mine was located on the inside of the driver's side door). Ask the dealer to show you where they placed the CPO sticker. If its not on the car, its not CPO. As for your friend, keep him as a friend, but its time to keep him out of your negotiations. If anything, the dealer will use your friendship as a way to gain your trust and money through your friend.

Originally Posted by nyczdave

Ok i just called the dealer and they said it is a CPO car!

Originally Posted by rheiy

This is a tuff one. NT2SHBBY said the car was NOT advertized as CPO at the 29.7 price so
that gave the dealer room to increase his price if sold as CPO. During your conversations with the dealer on price, was it understood between you and the sales rep that the car is being sold as CPO? IF so, you should not expect to pay an extra 800 CPO fee. Its time to deal direclty with the Sales Manager (he's the guy who has final authority for price approval)
BTW, 29,485 sound very reasonable if it includes CPO.

Originally Posted by rheiy

I bought my 01 GS 3 years ago with 10M miles as certified. Unless you have heard negative things about your Lexus Dealership, you can be fairly certain that the car should be in good mechanical condition and has not been in any major accidents. In fact, the dealer should be able to pull all service records on the car and show them to you. As for other stuff like Body Condition, etc...
everything can be negotiated. Ie: Insist dealer provide latest update for Nav, Check condition of floor mats, if worn, insist on new ones, have dealer buff out scratches, or lower your offer price based on accepting existing scratches, dings, wheel curb rash etc.. as is. Also, make sure you get at least 2 sets of keys, all tires (including spare) should be brand new, and that the dealer performed the 30k service. Drive the car and drive a brand new one just to compare. If the car is good,( assuming there's no mods on the used one) there should be no difference between the New and Used other than that "new car smell" If you detect something in the way the car handles , shifts, etc... that just does not feel right, you may want to consider something else.
As for price, you can check edmunds.com and kbb.com to get an idea of price. Don't be afraid to offer the dealer closer to trade-in value...you can always go up. For reference, when I bought mine 3 years ago, the dealer was asking 46 and we settled on 38.5.

Originally Posted by nyczdave

Does some one have a list of items that should of been changed for the 30K service?

Thanks

Originally Posted by rheiy

and a few cookies and soda to go

Cost was 400 --- at bit high but Lexus Service is not cheap. Local Procare wanted almost the same but they did not include a service car, cookies, and soda.

Originally Posted by nyczdave

its a wrap.
I just picked up the car on Thursday and so far its everything i expected.
I will be posting pics up soon.