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"WHY!?!" (do you NEED your master key to program a new one?)

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Old 04-19-05, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by NT2SHBBY
oy vey......STOP THE INSANITY!!!!!


I got my GS4 with one key and I needed spares...I simply gave sewell my VIN# and proof of ownership of the car and voila, within a week I had spare keys to my door

NOW, with those spare keys they WILL NOT start the car until they are programmed INSIDE the car....I have the programming instructions somewhere....

How much did they charge you? Was this for the key cut already? What was left to do reprogram it and your set?
Old 04-19-05, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by GammaLex
How much did they charge you? Was this for the key cut already? What was left to do reprogram it and your set?
Yup...I did the same thing with a new master and valet I ordered from them when I first got the car. Took me a minute to program them in, but I did it......and it was fairly simple, a little funny too.....
Old 04-19-05, 07:22 AM
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IF you lose all of your keys, and your car is in the garage, then you can use your VIN number, have the dealer cut you one so you can place the car in neutral, back it out of the garage, tow it to the dealer, and have them replace the ECM.

Lexus has been known to replace the computer for free per vehicle life, but you have to pay for the keys and installation.

So dont sweat it
Old 04-19-05, 10:37 AM
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While we're on the keys topic, I'm going to order this from Sewell:
Basically it's a blank and uncut. You have to supply your vin so they can cut:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7968432637
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Old 04-19-05, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by slickgt1
Yea saved me a ton. I know this guy personally so technically it's a hookup. Lexus wanted $255 for another key, and $45 for the programing. Then they checked my car and said all memory slots were full and it would cost me $295 to get them erased.

My guy, $100 for the key, cut and programmed. And free ECM reflash. Now I am guaranteed that I am the only one with keys for my car.

Oh and by the way, Lexus states that if you loose all of your keys, it will be $2500 for a ECM replacement/reflash. Well at least that is the crap they were feeding me when I told them I am not interested in their services.
What kind of keys did you have to start with? If you had an existing master key he didn't need to reflash it. He could have used the master key to erase all existing keys except the one used for programming. He would have done this using on board programming. He then could have added in the remaining keys you had.

On certain models, the $2500 price is true if you go through Lexus. They HAVE to follow the Lexus protocol which is ECM replacement.

If you go the aftermarket route then you can get the ECM reflashed.

Take care,

Tami
Old 04-19-05, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by GRAND_LS 4
IF you lose all of your keys, and your car is in the garage, then you can use your VIN number, have the dealer cut you one so you can place the car in neutral, back it out of the garage, tow it to the dealer, and have them replace the ECM.

Lexus has been known to replace the computer for free per vehicle life, but you have to pay for the keys and installation.

So dont sweat it
That is true if it is in a home garage... I was thinking parking garage.

I've also heard that Toyota and Lexus stopped their free ECM replacement program at the end of 2004. I haven't seen that in writing so as of now it is only a rumor. They were having too many problems with used car dealerships getting replacement ECM's when the program wasn't meant for them.

But it doesn't hurt to call and ask. You would need to contact Toyota/Lexus Customer Care and arrange it with them first and they once you get a confirmation for service you can schedule the appt. with the dealer.

Take care,

Tami
Old 04-19-05, 02:46 PM
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The ECM replacement program is live an well. But who wants to spend 500 bucks for that crap? I would really like for someone to post the reprogramming instructions. You would have helped me out a lot!

I still can't figure out how my valet key is doing everything that it's not supposed to!?!

G
Old 04-19-05, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by maaloxx
The ECM replacement program is live an well. But who wants to spend 500 bucks for that crap? I would really like for someone to post the reprogramming instructions. You would have helped me out a lot!

I still can't figure out how my valet key is doing everything that it's not supposed to!?!

G

Well, first you would need to buy an EEprom reader. Customized to do Toyota and Lexus reflashing that would cost you about $1200.00. (Will also do Honda/Acura IMMO box reflashing)

Then you remove the ECM and attach the probes from the reader to the IC900 chip. Then commence to resetting the value on the ECM.

Reinstall the ECM and then program in new keys.


What is your valet key doing that you don't think it should be doing? Is it an OEM key or aftermarket key? When you insert the valet key into the ignition how long does it take for the security light to go out. If it goes out immediately then it is programmed in as a master key. If it takes a second or two it is programmed in as a valet key.

Take care,

Tami
Old 04-19-05, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tamicalhou
Well, first you would need to buy an EEprom reader. Customized to do Toyota and Lexus reflashing that would cost you about $1200.00. (Will also do Honda/Acura IMMO box reflashing)

Then you remove the ECM and attach the probes from the reader to the IC900 chip. Then commence to resetting the value on the ECM.

Reinstall the ECM and then program in new keys.


What is your valet key doing that you don't think it should be doing? Is it an OEM key or aftermarket key? When you insert the valet key into the ignition how long does it take for the security light to go out. If it goes out immediately then it is programmed in as a master key. If it takes a second or two it is programmed in as a valet key.

Take care,

Tami
Tami,

The only thing that I can't do with my "valet" Key is remotely lock/unlock and release the trunk. Otherwise, I can do everything else...It's my only key
Old 04-20-05, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by tamicalhou
What kind of keys did you have to start with? If you had an existing master key he didn't need to reflash it. He could have used the master key to erase all existing keys except the one used for programming. He would have done this using on board programming. He then could have added in the remaining keys you had.

On certain models, the $2500 price is true if you go through Lexus. They HAVE to follow the Lexus protocol which is ECM replacement.

If you go the aftermarket route then you can get the ECM reflashed.

Take care,

Tami
I only had the valet key. And yes, he did the entire thing with the pedals, and switches before he went ahead with the ECM reflash.
Old 04-20-05, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by maaloxx
Tami,

The only thing that I can't do with my "valet" Key is remotely lock/unlock and release the trunk. Otherwise, I can do everything else...It's my only key
Dude, where in NY are you. I can give you the number of my guy and you can just go there. He even gets keys cheap. He is in Brooklyn though.
Old 04-20-05, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by GammaLex
How much did they charge you? Was this for the key cut already? What was left to do reprogram it and your set?
$60 for a spare??? I ordered two.....key was cut and worked perfectly...All I did was program it to start the car (with the ECU)

I have them somewhere in my car...I'll scan by later today
Old 04-20-05, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by maaloxx
Tami,

The only thing that I can't do with my "valet" Key is remotely lock/unlock and release the trunk. Otherwise, I can do everything else...It's my only key
Ok... it isn't a valet key then. Why do you think it is a valet key?

Does it work in the glovebox/trunk? Does the security light go out immediately when you insert it in the ignition?

The important indicator is the security light. It may be a mechanical valet key but programmed in as a master key or it may be a mechanical master and be programmed in as a valet key. That is why you need to check the security light to determine what type of key it is electronically.

If it is an electronic master then you can program in more keys yourself.

Take care,

Tami
Old 04-20-05, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by slickgt1
I only had the valet key. And yes, he did the entire thing with the pedals, and switches before he went ahead with the ECM reflash.
That was the thing to do then.

Tami
Old 04-20-05, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by maaloxx
Tami,

The only thing that I can't do with my "valet" Key is remotely lock/unlock and release the trunk. Otherwise, I can do everything else...It's my only key
Then it is not a valet key.

Valet keys do not unlock glove boxes or trunks and they do not have buttons to unlock or open anything.


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