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Old 05-25-05, 09:43 AM
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Well... I guess my GS400 was slow cause i got beat by a 430....

Then when i drive it it felt faster then mine.

I'll be going w/ the 430 soon... But not because of the speed. For the prices now you can pick up a 430 for a couple more thousand... Worth it too me.
Old 05-25-05, 09:46 AM
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I thought the reason some think the GS400 is slightly faster than the GS430 is because the best tested 0-60 time from the car mags. for the GS400 is 5.7 sec. & no mag. had tested a 430 that matches that 0-60 time ?
Old 05-25-05, 12:21 PM
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Id go for the 400. The 400 is probably going to be lighter, plus, a 1UZ is going to be better then a 3UZ when you forcefully induce it. Im sure both of them are still going to be nice quiet cars. And the 400 is a tad cheeper and with the money saved, you can buy internals and some turbo parts
Old 05-25-05, 01:03 PM
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Ive been reading posts lately about how some 430's are unresponsive (kind of die out almost until you have to push the gas pedal all the way in) at cruising speeds, and that the problem comes and goes, and that the dealerships really have no real fix for it. That may be something to consider also....(as I havent seen it an issue yet for 400's...either that I havent seen related posts on it)
Old 05-25-05, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jmjs23
Ive been reading posts lately about how some 430's are unresponsive (kind of die out almost until you have to push the gas pedal all the way in) at cruising speeds, and that the problem comes and goes, and that the dealerships really have no real fix for it. That may be something to consider also....(as I havent seen it an issue yet for 400's...either that I havent seen related posts on it)
i don't have that problem on my sc430 which has the same engine.

but on my gs400, i just feel that the throttle response is much better than that of the gs430/sc430
Old 05-25-05, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by rominl
i don't have that problem on my sc430 which has the same engine.

but on my gs400, i just feel that the throttle response is much better than that of the gs430/sc430

I've never had the mushy pedal either.

on a side note-how come the GS430 is as quick or faster than the SC430?
Old 05-25-05, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jmjs23
Ive been reading posts lately about how some 430's are unresponsive (kind of die out almost until you have to push the gas pedal all the way in) at cruising speeds, and that the problem comes and goes, and that the dealerships really have no real fix for it. That may be something to consider also....(as I havent seen it an issue yet for 400's...either that I havent seen related posts on it)
I've never had slow response issues with my 430. I hit the gas and it takes off.
Old 05-25-05, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rominl
i don't have that problem on my sc430 which has the same engine.

but on my gs400, i just feel that the throttle response is much better than that of the gs430/sc430
sorry, I should have said GS430's (just assumed 430 was GS specific....my bad)
Old 05-25-05, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Neo
They are both pretty damn fast. I'd only get the 400 if you really want eShift. Otherwise, the 430 with all the changes would be my choice.
I agree both cars are fast and I have driven both cars back to back before I made my final purchase. The only thing I disagree with you on is the "e-shift". There is no advantage using e-shift from a stopped position. In fact, under wot, using e-shift can cause you to hit the rev limiter since there's a delay in the time you hit the button to the time the tranny shifts. However on another point, I think the 400 has an advantage over the 430 if you are going to add a TC. There's no cel issue with the 400 but with the 430, you may end up with that problem. It 's hit or miss. Overall if I were looking at the 400 or 430, I would go with the one that was in the best condition.
Old 05-25-05, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by chuckb
I've never had the mushy pedal either.

on a side note-how come the GS430 is as quick or faster than the SC430?
The SC430 is a little heavier . Hardtop convertibles in particular are heavy.
Old 05-25-05, 02:27 PM
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You'll love either one so enjoy what evere you buy
Old 05-25-05, 02:29 PM
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Go with the GS430 but i'm partial to it cause i have one either way both great cars !!!
Old 05-25-05, 02:40 PM
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Stay away from the 300.....I look cute in it.....but you can only see me in the rearview mirrors
Old 05-25-05, 03:49 PM
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gs400 is faster than the gs430 because its lighter and the throttle response is better. the gs430 is quieter but slower due to the added weight of sound deadening materials. also, the gs430 is slower because it uses a different throttle response system....dont believe me? ask a lexus technician...
Old 05-25-05, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by GQD_GS4
gs400 is faster than the gs430 because its lighter and the throttle response is better. the gs430 is quieter but slower due to the added weight of sound deadening materials. ...
Originally Posted by Lexus Website
2000 GS 400
Curb weight 3,693 lb
Horsepower at rpm 300 hp @ 6,000
- Torque at rpm 310 lb-ft @ 4,000


2001 GS 430
Curb weight 3,715 lb
Horsepower at rpm 300 hp @ 5,600
- Torque at rpm 325 lb-ft @ 3,400
do you think that whopping 22lbs makes a difference?
also, the gs430 is slower because it uses a different throttle response system....dont believe me? ask a lexus technician
everyone knows the GS430 has a different ecu/ drive by wire setup, what do we need to ask a tech?


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