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can someone tell me what radar detector to get?

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Old 07-23-01, 09:06 PM
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Hey guys

can someone recommend a good radar detector?

How are the valentine one?

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Old 07-23-01, 09:33 PM
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motortrend just put up a radar guide this past week. The story is on their main page if you wanna take a peak. Most people seem to recommend either the Val or the Bel 980 from what I've seen
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I have a Passport 8500 and love it.
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Radar detectors don't stop you getting a tickets often enough to put up with all its false alarms. I am looking to make my GS430 Stealth instead or have feedback to make the radar gun short out.
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really ceoart? is that possible?
Old 07-24-01, 03:13 AM
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GS3-K8, no it's not possible, back-of-the-magazine ads to the contrary. Or rather, it is possible, in theory, but godawfully expensive. As in way more than your car costs.

Stealth tech is well documented in the military but there is nothing even vaguely applicable to consumer use. Couple of car mags last yr showed a homebuilt over in England of a guy who wanted a car that "looked like" the Stealth bomber. He made no claims re the radar signature of the car but, suffice to say, it wasn't invisible.

As far as jammers are concerned, again, possible but not economically feasible for us. Car and Driver tested several jammers (both radar and laser) a couple of years ago (as well as taking them apart to see what sort of crap was being foisted off on the gullible. Conclusion: essentially zero effectiveness. And if a simple jammer/false speed generator can't produce enough power to work, you can be sure it certainly isn't producing enough power to smoke circuitry.

And those of us who have escaped even one or two tickets with our detectors would dispute the economics of going bare, since the direct costs of fines have escalated, and there are always those insurance premiums to think about.

All the detectors above are excellent and all have their defenders. As far as other stuff, caveat emptor. But it's sure OK with me if somebody wants to use jammers/cloaking devices/some other wierd arrangement. Just gives me some more runners to set off the instant-on before I get to it thereby letting me know where the blue ones are. :eek:

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Old 07-24-01, 05:28 AM
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I also have the Passport 8500 and it works great. If you search the web for radar test there is a sight that shows testing results and the Passport was rated the best. I've saved the money it cost me already. The sight also gives info on jammers. Basically says that nothing works.
Old 07-24-01, 06:08 AM
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Originally posted by ceoart
Radar detectors don't stop you getting a tickets often enough to put up with all its false alarms....
I strongly disagree. In the 20+ years I've used one version of Passport after another I can't tell you how many times they've saved my butt. And the 8500 is virtually false alarm free and can be programmed to eliminate X band for example to remove false alarms from radar-like (primarily motion detector) sources.

Granted, they are basically useless against LASER, but for radar a good detector does the job. Wouldn't be happy driving without my Passport 8500.

As for making your car "stealth" - I'm with mooretorque. What I've seen says the claims haven't been met. The tests indicate they don't work. If someone has some concrete data to the contrary I'd be very interested. If they really have one that works I'd go for it. So far I haven't felt the need to spend my money on one.
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Exclamation ***PASSPORT 8500***

PASSPORT 8500!!!

It's as simple as that! V-1, BEL 980, are good.
Passport 8500 is the best!!!
I my friend and a cop buddy put my 8500 and his V-1 (in his 01' Porsche 911) put em' to a "real life" test. Let's just say he sold the V-1 and got a 8500!!!
Also I got a contact for the best price for one. Let me know. :eek:
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TXStyle, I'm looking for an 8500. I'm game on that hookup if it's still cool.

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Txstyle Hook me up

do they make a cordless model?

I dont have room for another plug.

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They do make a cordless model called the Solo. Check out

http://www.escortradar.com

But, cordless detectors typically don't perform as well as corded models. I don't think the Solo is equivalent in quality to the 8500.

You may want to consider a "Y splitter" for the cigarette lighter plug to give you another outlet. Althought, my preference would be to direct wire the 8500 into the lighter fuse in the fuse box at the driver's kick panel. This way it turns on automatically when you start the car. You can get direct wires for the 8500 (with and without the "smart" feature) from Escort or perhaps from where you buy the 8500.
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that sounds good
direct wire would work

now i need to find the best place to order from

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Erick, the best place is also the only place (unless Cincinnati Microwave has changed their previous practice of only selling from the factory).......call the 1-800 #. Interesting (and, of course, not coincidental, since Mike Valentine was the engineer behind the original Escort when he was the Head Wiz at CM) that CM and Valentine have similar marketing philosophy and tend to go neck-in-neck performance-wise.

Direct wire is the way to go.
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Guys give me a moment to track down my contact for sale of the 8500. It'll be worth it! And unfotunately the Solo will not compare to the 8500!!! :eek:


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