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how much WHP?

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Old 01-20-07, 04:03 PM
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guys how much does the Gs430's push at the wheels? hp and tq wize...

whats the most WHP and TQ we can push with mods w/o a S/C or Turbo

and how much with the s/c or Turbo...

how do these cars compare to the C32 AMG with 350hp stock and i've read evosport stage 2 will give that car 400WHP! i really like the C32's but they are really problematic and i would like to push that amount of power out of a more reliable car like a gs430!

what are the simple mods people do that boost them from their stock 300?
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most gs4 does around 240-245whp and about the same for torque.

Our cars would get roasted by the mercedes C32.
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Just drop some boost on the GS300 and you will be good to go
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Originally Posted by JeffTsai
Just drop some boost on the GS300 and you will be good to go
is the GS300 easier to mod?
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Originally Posted by GSteg
most gs4 does around 240-245whp and about the same for torque.

Our cars would get roasted by the mercedes C32.
lol come on man have more faith...they spend 10X more money on keeping the car on the road...
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I'd love to have more faith, but an FI car is going to make more power than most N/A engines per mod. It sucks to spend $3000+ only to shave off half a second on your 1/4th. I have more faith in a 2jz-gte'd GS

The stock GS300 shares the same engine platform as the IS300 and supra NA. Theres going to be a lot more aftermarket support for the GS3 than the GS4. The GS3 can easily obtain more power through force induction, while spending less money than on a GS4.
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I sold my C43 AMG and bought my GS400 and am very pleased with my decision. Reliability is the key. I don't have my GS performing quite like the AMG YET, but we'll get there.
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it would depend on how much you want to spend. a 2jzgte swap will only leave you with the same hp as a gs4 if you leave it stock. the swap it self would put you back several thousand, but it has potential for some serious performance. if you only want near 300hp to the wheels, a few bolt on mods on a gs4 will get you there.
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Originally Posted by GS FONZy
it would depend on how much you want to spend. a 2jzgte swap will only leave you with the same hp as a gs4 if you leave it stock. the swap it self would put you back several thousand, but it has potential for some serious performance. if you only want near 300hp to the wheels, a few bolt on mods on a gs4 will get you there.
how about 400 at the wheels...possible?...what is this that i am hearing called crumple zones and the lexus's fold?
i want a GS430...and make it powerful without spending crazy money on it...
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Just get intake, headers, gut the cat, run a cut out, and NOS
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Originally Posted by Racerx0911
i want a GS430...and make it powerful without spending crazy money on it...
Depends on what you define as crazy money. If you are talking about more than 10k, I don't think it is possible to do what you ask for a truly clean setup.
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Originally Posted by Racerx0911
i want a GS430...and make it powerful without spending crazy money on it...
That is pretty difficult to do. The GS400 and 430 cost quite a bit to do the engine performance mods, especially if you are looking for 400whp. Here is an example of what you may spend:
SRT or Similar intake- $300+
Exhaust- $500+
Headers- $550+
TQ Converter- $800+
LSD and Gears- $600+
All these prices are somewhat on the low side and you will be looking at about 300whp and high 13s. That is at least $2750 and you will be around 300whp. To get above that you are looking at Nitrous($800+), Supercharging($5k+), or Turbocharging($5K+ if you can fabricate). Like GSTeg said, factory forced induction cars are way easier to make fast for cheap, but in my opinion the GS is way more reliable and classy. The stock GS internals are said to be pretty close to the edge at 400whp and you do have to consider finding someone who knows how to tune well or you will be replacing at least one motor.
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400whp is not easily obtainable. A mercedes E55 does about 400whp and it has a supercharger plus a 5.5L engine. We have a stinkin' small 4.0-4.3L engine that's naturally aspirated. Getting another 200hp at the crank with NA mods is borderline impossible, at least while retaining everyday driveability.

Be one of the first with a 4.7L swap Throw in some higher compression pistons and find a way to get a standalone engine management system in there. You'll definitely need a higher redline than our stock limit. Best way to increase power through NA is to increase displacement, and then increase the redline, given you are able to feed the engine air and fuel at those RPM.
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Originally Posted by GSteg
400whp is not easily obtainable. A mercedes E55 does about 400whp and it has a supercharger plus a 5.5L engine. We have a stinkin' small 4.0-4.3L engine that's naturally aspirated. Getting another 200hp at the crank with NA mods is borderline impossible, at least while retaining everyday driveability.

Be one of the first with a 4.7L swap Throw in some higher compression pistons and find a way to get a standalone engine management system in there. You'll definitely need a higher redline than our stock limit. Best way to increase power through NA is to increase displacement, and then increase the redline, given you are able to feed the engine air and fuel at those RPM.
would u guys take a E55 over a 430? the 99's are pretty cheap...and modable!
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I like the E355's engine, but that's about it. The 99 E55's are N/A producing 349hp and 391ftlbs of torque. I'm sure it'll be very fun with a force induction setup

I just can't stand their interior. It looks dated to me


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