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Old 03-19-07, 05:59 PM
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All right every one, I would like to start off by apologizing for pissing anyone off for posting this thread, lol I'm pretty sure the information I'm looking for is out there but I just can't seem to find it, ( I guess thats why I got the rookie status..) and excuse the novice level of the questions that I'm about to ask, but I gotta start somewhere..here goes..

1. What is "Fender Rolling" and why do I need to do that when I want to install 20' rims on my vehicle?

2. In reguards to rims, what does the "Wheel offset" size mean?

3. What sizes would you guys recommend for my GS with out making any major modifications? (I would like to slap on 20's)

thanks for your help!
Old 03-19-07, 06:03 PM
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1. You dont' need to fender roll when you put on 20s. It all depends on your offset and tire width.

2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offset_%28wheel%29

3. Do you have any wheels in mind?
Old 03-19-07, 06:07 PM
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There are plenty of 20" sized wheels that fit without fender mods. A 40+ Offset shouldnt have any rubbing.
Old 03-19-07, 06:22 PM
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Fender Rolling - is the modification one must perform when they install bigger rims/tires that rub while driving and/or turning. Check out this site to see the process http://www.bmwdiy.info/fender-rolling/index.html

Wheel Offset - The offset of a wheel is the distance from its hub mounting surface to the centerline of the wheel. The offset can be one of three types.

20s should fit fine
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Like everyone else said...20's are common for our G's.
Old 03-19-07, 11:27 PM
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side note: do NOT fender roll your lexus! cutting and filling in sheet metal is a much better option than rolling it.
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Thanks for the info my peoples! I feel enlightened..
what sizes would you guys recommend? 208x5 front 209x5 rear?
or would 9x5 front 10 rear look better?
not that i'm planning to, but why not fender roll ElitistK? to much of a risk?

what offset sizes you you guys have on your GS's?
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I think most have 8.5 in the front and 9.5 or 10 in rear. Offset on my 20's is +42.
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Originally Posted by eskaeone
Thanks for the info my peoples! I feel enlightened..
what sizes would you guys recommend? 208x5 front 209x5 rear?
or would 9x5 front 10 rear look better?
not that i'm planning to, but why not fender roll ElitistK? to much of a risk?

what offset sizes you you guys have on your GS's?
9.5 front will be a tight fit. I would shoot for an 8.5 front 9.5 or 10 rear.
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Originally Posted by eskaeone
Thanks for the info my peoples! I feel enlightened..
what sizes would you guys recommend? 208x5 front 209x5 rear?
or would 9x5 front 10 rear look better?
not that i'm planning to, but why not fender roll ElitistK? to much of a risk?

what offset sizes you you guys have on your GS's?
Many members on CL have tried fender rolling...all of them came back and told us not to.
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It's way too easy to chip your paint
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good lookin' peoples!
I went with 20' Zenetti Stellas 8x5 in the front and 10 in the rear
i look like a psyco cause I can stop staring at them!
pics comming soon..!
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Originally Posted by ElitistK
Many members on CL have tried fender rolling...all of them came back and told us not to.
I second and third that. Paint chipping is the least of your worries with rolling. First off, the rear panels are layered with a "skin" and when you roll, it will creates waves and pinch points on the body where the plastic insert for the screw that sits on the inside tab of the fender. Then, if you want it straight, you can have PDR done, but if it's rolled, the only way to get it straight is to do filler and paint... and uh, now your into it for bucks and possibly mismatched paint... way more than ever needed.

The better result is this, shave to a smaller lip, and have someone fill the gap to join the "skin" and protect from rust and then once it's nice and smooth, your safe.

For the fronts, there is no "skin", but once the tab is cut back, you'll need to have the inner wheel well liner heated and molded up, because once the lip is removed, it will hang down. Remeber to have it rust protected, cutting = exposed metal = rust = ... you get the point.

Fender mods on a GS are fun!!! <sarcasm fully implied and executed>

Please, please, please, find someone who has done this on a GS, not someone who says "yeah, I can do it", find someone who says "yeah, I've done it on a GS".
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Originally Posted by mole
I second and third that. Paint chipping is the least of your worries with rolling. First off, the rear panels are layered with a "skin" and when you roll, it will creates waves and pinch points on the body where the plastic insert for the screw that sits on the inside tab of the fender. Then, if you want it straight, you can have PDR done, but if it's rolled, the only way to get it straight is to do filler and paint... and uh, now your into it for bucks and possibly mismatched paint... way more than ever needed.

The better result is this, shave to a smaller lip, and have someone fill the gap to join the "skin" and protect from rust and then once it's nice and smooth, your safe.

For the fronts, there is no "skin", but once the tab is cut back, you'll need to have the inner wheel well liner heated and molded up, because once the lip is removed, it will hang down. Remeber to have it rust protected, cutting = exposed metal = rust = ... you get the point.

Fender mods on a GS are fun!!! <sarcasm fully implied and executed>

Please, please, please, find someone who has done this on a GS, not someone who says "yeah, I can do it", find someone who says "yeah, I've done it on a GS".
Why did I not find this until it was too late???

Had my fender rolled and I'm still pissed everytime I wash my car, and spend 20 minutes after with touch up paint correcting the crap! Don't get your fender rolled - trust me!!!
Old 03-29-07, 04:51 PM
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damn man that sucks!
I didn't wnat to do that anyway, but now I'm sure of it!!!
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